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Neil Armstrtong.
13 Sep 2012 08:56 #1
by CinnamonGirl
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They are having a memorial service for Neil today. It got me thinking about alot of things. First, he was one of those guys that had amazing words and quotes for everything. He will be buried at sea. They say he was always in charge of his own destiny. And he thought walking on the moon was the least interesting part of flying to the moon. He said, "pilots love to fly, not walk."
So here is what I was thinking about, with the Russians and a common goal, we would not have walked on the moon. The competition of the space race is what made it happen. Competition makes everyone better.
Now I don't want this to turn into a nasty political thread but seriously. That is what I believe in for the economy.
It takes a special person to do something no one else has done and especially as dangerous as that mission was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong
So here is what I was thinking about, with the Russians and a common goal, we would not have walked on the moon. The competition of the space race is what made it happen. Competition makes everyone better.
Now I don't want this to turn into a nasty political thread but seriously. That is what I believe in for the economy.
It takes a special person to do something no one else has done and especially as dangerous as that mission was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong
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13 Sep 2012 17:13 #8
by ScienceChic
You are applying business basics to science, and while much is accomplished even in science due to fierce competition between labs to be the first to discover new knowledge and applicable products, you cannot discount the positive forces that come uniquely from collaboration. Scientists from Israel and Palestine work together, India and Pakistan, North and South Korea and it's these small initial efforts of working together that lead to greater understanding of each other and bigger peaceful relations between 2 nations that historically have fought one another. Collaborations allow scientists to share resources and knowledge leading to quicker discoveries. Most importantly, the divide between disciplines is quickly fading and the need to work with people who have expertise in other areas essential for success. For example, 30 years ago just focusing on isolating and sequencing individual genes was enough to make a career; now, that effort is mostly done and a geneticist has to explore what those gene products do - just having knowledge of genetics doesn't cut it, one has to know biochemistry, physics, math, molecular biology, and bioinformatics. Need help quick - find someone who's specialty is that who joins your team so you don't have to spend the time picking it up yourself because time is precious.
Heard of the Large Hadron Collider? 111 nations and over 10,000 scientists and they've already confirmed the Higgs boson and are working to learn even more and hopefully apply that to many useful applications, like cheap, safe energy production.
Google benefits of scientists collaborating and you'll see a lot more, but here's two that came up at the top:
Benefits of Research Collaboration
International scientific collaboration: a quick guide
The injection of business in science, is good too. I applaud and am excited at Musk's and Branson's involvement, as it is yet another piece of the puzzle to getting us permanently into space.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I accept that you disagree, but I will respectfully disagree with you back!CinnamonGirl wrote: I respectfully disagree. I think you will get more with competition between countries or companies in some things and collaboration in others. (ISS)
You are applying business basics to science, and while much is accomplished even in science due to fierce competition between labs to be the first to discover new knowledge and applicable products, you cannot discount the positive forces that come uniquely from collaboration. Scientists from Israel and Palestine work together, India and Pakistan, North and South Korea and it's these small initial efforts of working together that lead to greater understanding of each other and bigger peaceful relations between 2 nations that historically have fought one another. Collaborations allow scientists to share resources and knowledge leading to quicker discoveries. Most importantly, the divide between disciplines is quickly fading and the need to work with people who have expertise in other areas essential for success. For example, 30 years ago just focusing on isolating and sequencing individual genes was enough to make a career; now, that effort is mostly done and a geneticist has to explore what those gene products do - just having knowledge of genetics doesn't cut it, one has to know biochemistry, physics, math, molecular biology, and bioinformatics. Need help quick - find someone who's specialty is that who joins your team so you don't have to spend the time picking it up yourself because time is precious.Heard of the Large Hadron Collider? 111 nations and over 10,000 scientists and they've already confirmed the Higgs boson and are working to learn even more and hopefully apply that to many useful applications, like cheap, safe energy production.
Google benefits of scientists collaborating and you'll see a lot more, but here's two that came up at the top:
Benefits of Research Collaboration
International scientific collaboration: a quick guide
The injection of business in science, is good too. I applaud and am excited at Musk's and Branson's involvement, as it is yet another piece of the puzzle to getting us permanently into space.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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13 Sep 2012 17:36 #9
by LOL
I respectfully disagree. LOL
Investment is a word that is way over-used by politicians. It can be smart spending with good value or dumb wasteful spending. Lets stop calling everything an investment and just spend wisely.
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
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CinnamonGirl wrote: The space program is an investment in my view. Technology is a very valuable commodity for this country.
I respectfully disagree. LOL
Investment is a word that is way over-used by politicians. It can be smart spending with good value or dumb wasteful spending. Lets stop calling everything an investment and just spend wisely.
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
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