How will you vote on 64, treat pot like booze?

18 Sep 2012 06:03 - 13 Nov 2012 18:00 #1 by The Boss

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18 Sep 2012 06:11 #2 by RenegadeCJ
Huh? Is this considered a push poll? You sound like a MSNBC poll. Start with an agenda, and try to force people into boxes.

Those aren't the only 3 options....

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18 Sep 2012 06:37 - 13 Nov 2012 18:00 #3 by The Boss

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18 Sep 2012 07:27 #4 by FredHayek
I will vote for decriminalization.

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18 Sep 2012 07:53 #5 by RenegadeCJ
I somewhat support 64, and really the regulation and taxation of it, but am concerned about the affects.

1) Use by kids will increase substantially. Cigarettes are regulated and legal, but tons of kids still smoke, even though they aren't "legally allowed" to possess or purchase it. Surveying the young people I know, many of them have said they want to try it if it becomes legal. Others already get it from the MMJ distributors.

2) Will employers be able to not allow use before or during shifts? Will some sort of test be available? Alcohol is easy...you smell it on their breath, and can send them home or fire them. How do I, as an employer know how many joints someone had on the way to work?

3) 2nd hand smoke. Just visit Boulder on 4/20 and you get a free high..... I guess if the same rules for cigarette smoke are followed, that shouldn't be too much of an issue...unless you live in Boulder, although if you live there, you likely partake anyway! :wink:

4) Alcohol kills many, and many are addicted. Just because we have one thing that destroys lives...should we add another?

5) Do we really need something additional to make our young people even less motivated?

6) If it passes...I need to open a convenience store selling doritos and Marijuana...I'd be rich!

That said, I'll likely vote for it. We waste way too many resources in the drug biz....although Cocaine, and Meth are the big ones these days. The feds pretty much ignore marijuana cases here...unless they are huge, or have other charges, such as gun charges.

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18 Sep 2012 09:10 #6 by FredHayek
Don't employers already have to make those decisions about stoned employees right now? I used to work at Sears and some of my fellow associates would smoke on the clock.

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18 Sep 2012 09:22 #7 by RenegadeCJ

FredHayek wrote: Don't employers already have to make those decisions about stoned employees right now? I used to work at Sears and some of my fellow associates would smoke on the clock.


Nope, right now we have a right to drug screen any employee. As of now, we can do so, because drugs are illegal. Not sure what this law would do to that. The problem is, unlike alcohol, I'm not sure how you would know if someone was smoking on the way to work vs. last night at a party. I don't care what people do at home...I don't want them risking their life, or other employee's life, and our company if I can no longer "discriminate" my hiring practices on drug usage.

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18 Sep 2012 09:55 #8 by FredHayek
There would still be federal laws against MJ so you could still screen. But a good question about testing for drugs since a positive test lasts much longer than the effects of the drugs.

I was looking at a travel company and they wouldn't allow their guests to use medical marijuana since it was still illegal nationally.

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18 Sep 2012 10:31 #9 by BearMtnHIB
My company does tests on a variety of substances, some are legal- some are not. They test for ETOH, which is legal.

One employee was found to have alcohol in excess of .025. He was warned at the job site once, the second time he also tested positive above .025%- he was fired.

On the question of medical MJ- my company says that it's illegal at the federal level, and if we test positive, card or no card- we get fired.

It's the insurance companies that drive most of these policies- not the companies themselves. The insurance companies are forcing companies to comply with drug testing- or be dropped.

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18 Sep 2012 18:50 #10 by Photo-fish


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