How will you vote on 64, treat pot like booze?

All three of my kids tell me that weed is easier to get than booze...especially now that it's so much cheaper. Spending billions to keep it away from kids is never going to work so we may as well make it legal and give Mexican scumbags less reason to cross the border with it.

I am a conservative and will not vote for legalizing it. We have enough idiots in this world without adding more by legalizing. If they are going to do it anyway then get caught and pay the consequences and maybe with enough times, get cleaned up. Its a drug.

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akilina wrote: I am a conservative and will not vote for legalizing it. We have enough idiots in this world without adding more by legalizing. If they are going to do it anyway then get caught and pay the consequences and maybe with enough times, get cleaned up. Its a drug.

Thanks for helping show that conservative does not mean that you favor small govt or freedom. So few people understand this.

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And that all conservatives don't think alike as often assumed by liberals.

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akilina wrote: I am a conservative and will not vote for legalizing it. We have enough idiots in this world without adding more by legalizing. If they are going to do it anyway then get caught and pay the consequences and maybe with enough times, get cleaned up. Its a drug.

Thanks for helping show that conservative does not mean that you favor small govt or freedom. So few people understand this.

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Actually, that is more like Libertarian...something that very few Americans are willing to put the effort into. It is interesting that a lot of Liberals I know (in fact, I think all of them) support freedom to do whatever drugs they want...but that is the only freedom they support. They want govt involved in every other facet of their lives.

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akilina wrote: I am a conservative and will not vote for legalizing it. We have enough idiots in this world without adding more by legalizing. If they are going to do it anyway then get caught and pay the consequences and maybe with enough times, get cleaned up. Its a drug.

Thanks for helping show that conservative does not mean that you favor small govt or freedom. So few people understand this.

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Actually, that is more like Libertarian...something that very few Americans are willing to put the effort into. It is interesting that a lot of Liberals I know (in fact, I think all of them) support freedom to do whatever drugs they want...but that is the only freedom they support. They want govt involved in every other facet of their lives.

.....I don't, yet you could hardly call me a conservative. However, isn't it the Republican platform that wants to regulate a woman's right to choose what is best for her? or what a woman can do about a pregnancy that is caused by rape or incest? or decide who a person can marry and who they can't? Isn't that gov't involved in the most intimate facet of our lives?

on that note wrote: How do folks think they will vote?

I have a lot of trouble with these amendments in general, a lot depends on the details spelled out and you really should read every word, even then its complex. While I may think yes in general on the issue, sometimes I just skip over it and don't vote if I haven't studied all of it. Maybe that is wrong too and no should be the default vote. Pot doesn't interest me but I agree it is about the same as booze. But booze is over regulated and over taxed too.

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akilina wrote: I am a conservative and will not vote for legalizing it. We have enough idiots in this world without adding more by legalizing. If they are going to do it anyway then get caught and pay the consequences and maybe with enough times, get cleaned up. Its a drug.

Thanks for helping show that conservative does not mean that you favor small govt or freedom. So few people understand this.

:thumbsup:

Actually, that is more like Libertarian...something that very few Americans are willing to put the effort into. It is interesting that a lot of Liberals I know (in fact, I think all of them) support freedom to do whatever drugs they want...but that is the only freedom they support. They want govt involved in every other facet of their lives.

.....I don't, yet you could hardly call me a conservative. However, isn't it the Republican platform that wants to regulate a woman's right to choose what is best for her? or what a woman can do about a pregnancy that is caused by rape or incest? or decide who a person can marry and who they can't? Isn't that gov't involved in the most intimate facet of our lives?

The vast majority of conservatives don't care what a woman does, but many do believe that abortion shouldn't be allowed during the complete pregnancy, aka, late term abortions. It has very little to do with "a woman's right to choose" it is more because a lot of Americans, due to medical science and technology, have seen late term babies, and believe they are babies at that point, not just a mass of tissue. Most don't want to limit early term in cases of rape or incest. They would rather it not happen, because they believe it is life, but understand the complexity there. Marriage? Who cares. Let's just get rid of the term completely, and take it completely out of the tax/legal code. Anyone should be able to set up a legal arrangement with anyone. Just do the paperwork.

The democrats have done a great job of ignoring the economy by focusing on these things that don't matter, or will never change. I'd rather agree to take them off the table, so we can get our fiscal house in order.

I'm not voting in your poll because it's far more complex than you presented. I'll be voting against 64 because there's no reliable test for impairment the way there is for alcohol. Also, it doesn't address the second hand smoke issue. If I drink whiskey, it inebriates me, not the person sitting next to me. It won't make their clothes smell unless I spill some on them.

As for employers, my company will fire anyone that shows up to the job after drinking. We can be drug and alcohol tested at any time, and there are no lower limits, any drugs or alcohol in the system is cause for termination. Making pot legal won't change any employer's policies.

Pot is still illegal at the national level. No matter what the states decide, pot is still a federal crime. The supporters of 64 are working at the wrong level - the federal government has taken that power from the states, so you're just pissin in the wind at the state level.

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on that note wrote: How do folks think they will vote?

I have a lot of trouble with these amendments in general, a lot depends on the details spelled out and you really should read every word, even then its complex. While I may think yes in general on the issue, sometimes I just skip over it and don't vote if I haven't studied all of it. Maybe that is wrong too and no should be the default vote. Pot doesn't interest me but I agree it is about the same as booze. But booze is over regulated and over taxed too.

A smart man once told me on amendments that you should only vote yes if you really, really want it to pass and doubt the legislature would pass the measure.

My vote is really to make a statement since I don't plan to smoke it anyway. And don't think it will change things.