Could it be that Obama is trying to set himself up to campaign as the man who is taking steps to finally close Gitmo, just as he recently reversed the Afghanistan surge in order to campaign as the man who's winding down the war in the Afghanistan?
The ACLU has praised the releases as "a partial victory for transparency."
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
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Wow, since the GOTP refused to let them move the detainees to a Super-Max type facility and get them off of Gitmo; and since the courts just ruled that "indefinite detention" without filing charges is unconstitutional, sounds like the Righties have just been hoisted on their own petard... (You know--that SCOTUS that has a majority of conservatives....)
"We don' need no steenkin' Constitution...", (unless of course, at that moment it serves your political needs...)
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Administration officials lay blame for the failed initiative on Congress, including Democrats who deserted the president, sometimes in droves. The debate, they said, became suffused with fear — fear that transferring detainees to American soil would create a genuine security threat, fear that closing Guantanamo would be electoral suicide. Some Democratic lawmakers pleaded with the White House not to press too hard, according to administration officials."
Democracy4Sale wrote: Wow, since the GOTP refused to let them move the detainees to a Super-Max type facility and get them off of Gitmo; and since the courts just ruled that "indefinite detention" without filing charges is unconstitutional, sounds like the Righties have just been hoisted on their own petard... (You know--that SCOTUS that has a majority of conservatives....)
"We don' need no steenkin' Constitution...", (unless of course, at that moment it serves your political needs...)
FredHayek wrote: Real reason? Barack needs their votes in Florida. AQ for Hussein!
Really? How would third-world detainees qualify to vote?
Of course, you have a source for that... (You don't? Oh, it's just the usual sound of flatulence escaping?... I thought so.)
So, "Some Democrats" voted no...but ALL of the GOTP voted no... So, somehow that translates to: "It's the Dems fault"... Got it.
So what is the conservative position on this? Keep them incarcerated forever? Execute them all? Let them all go? Hold individual trials for each one of them? (I wonder how much that would cost, and if it is even feasible). Criticize all you want, but tell us what you would do?
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So, "Some Democrats" voted no...but ALL of the GOTP voted no... So, somehow that translates to: "It's the Dems fault"... Got it.
No that is not what it translated to, but thanks for playing.
archer wrote: So what is the conservative position on this? Keep them incarcerated forever? Execute them all? Let them all go? Hold individual trials for each one of them? (I wonder how much that would cost, and if it is even feasible). Criticize all you want, but tell us what you would do?
It is a great question! It looks like many of them started as just personal vendettas. "Hey GI Joe, my neighbor works for Al Quaida and got my sister pregnant, arrest him."
So they probably should be tried and released, but now that they are embittered inmates held for years, send them home and they have become rallying points for terrorists. Supposedly the US Libyan ambassador raid was lead by a former detainee.
Are they POW's? Send them home when the war is over? Will this war on terrorism ever be over?
Or another issue, The US captures this Jordanian and wants to release him but Jordan doesn't want to take him back. What do you do? Pay another country to take him? Actually we have done that. I think one nation had the US pay off some of their debts and agreed to receive former detainees.
Oh, I was just joking about former detainees becoming voters but if no other country will take the wrongly accused, where will they go? I think they might even be able to petition for citizenship. Think the ACLU would take on that suit? Might even get a money settlement.
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