The New Obama Fuel Compliant Car is here!!

26 Sep 2012 08:36 #1 by BearMtnHIB

The Obama administration announced fuel economy standards Tuesday that would require car makers to almost double the average gas mileage for passenger vehicles to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.

The first vehicle to meet the new Obama fuel efficiency standards is now here! Say goodbye to your pickup trucks- they have been regulated away, there's no way a vehicle like a full size pickup can meet the new standards.

In fact- there's no way any V8 engine will meet the new regulations. Say goodbye to the V8- it has been regulated out of America.

But hey- were gonna "save the planet".

"These fuel standards represent the single most important step we've ever taken to reduce our dependence on foreign oil," President Obama said.

But the Romney campaign was quick to condemn the rules as impractical and harmful. "Gov. Romney opposes the extreme standards that President Obama has imposed, which will limit the choices available to American families," campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said.

Now, the agreement the administration made with the management, labor and environmental groups to double car mileage, that was a good deal too. It will cut your gas prices in half, your gas bill. No matter what the price is, if you double the mileage of your car, your bill will be half what it would have been. - Slick Willy- 2012 DNC

That slick Willy- he's a mathmatical genius!
Obama calls for cars to get almost 55 mpg (Price of autos to increase by at least $3,000) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2924039/posts?page=56

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26 Sep 2012 09:35 - 26 Sep 2012 09:41 #2 by FredHayek
Ford replaced a 3.0 liter in their Escape with a 1.6 liter turbo. Should help fuel economy. But you have to wonder about all the other tradeoffs like cars not surviving crashes. Should help new car sales.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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26 Sep 2012 09:37 - 27 Sep 2012 07:35 #3 by LOL
My motorcycle has a bigger engine than some new little cars. LOL But I get 45-48mpg

If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2

Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.

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26 Sep 2012 09:37 #4 by cydl
By the time they're available we won't have any roads to drive them on. No budget to repair the roads!

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26 Sep 2012 09:41 #5 by archer
Why are conservatives all about what Americans CAN'T do, and liberals are all about what Americans CAN do. I believe in American ingenuity and ability to create. If conservatives had the power to stop the Wright brothers they would have, after all no vehicle could ever fly.

(I hate cell phone auto correct...hope I got this changed before anyone read it)

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26 Sep 2012 10:26 #6 by BearMtnHIB

archer wrote: Why are conservatives all about what Americans CAN'T do, and liberals are all about what Americans CAN do. I believe in American ingenuity and ability to create. If conservatives had the power to stop the Wright brothers they would have, after all no vehicle could ever fly.

Are you sure you have your facts correct? Bucause the way I see it- exactly the opposite of what you say is the truth.

Conservatives are all about what Americans can do- and liberals are all about what Americans can't do.

Here we have yet another regulation- that will use the power of government to tell Automobile manufacturer's what they can't build anymore. American ingenuity does not need the regulating power of government to provide new fuel efficient cars- the demand for high efficiency cars from the free market will do that quite sufficiently all by itself.

Nor will the government subsidizing of Auto technology with taxpayer dollars result in efficient technology breakthroughs- as we are now finding out with the chevy volt.

I'm not against fuel efficient cars- I'm against the government forcing Americans to drive them by regulating less efficient cars out of existance. This should be a personal choice, not a government mandate.

I don't even like these massive SUV's like the ford excursion- the chevy suburban, the hummers etc... but I'm not about to tell these people they can't have them. That's their choice- and it's their prerogative, and I don't question it- they must have their reasons.

It's ironic you mention the Wright brothers- because in their time there were no government regulations against building airplanes- there were no government subsidies- only American initiative to innovate and investors willing to finance the idea.

The Wright Brothers were U.S. inventors who achieved the first powered, sustained, and controlled airplane flight. The brothers first worked in printing-machinery design and later in bicycle manufacturing, which financed their early experiments in airplane design. To test flight control, essential to successful powered flight, they built and flew three biplane gliders (190002). Propeller and engine innovations led to their first powered airplane, which Orville flew successfully for 12 seconds and Wilbur later flew for 59 seconds at Kill Devil Hills, N.C. (near the village of Kitty Hawk), on Dec. 17, 1903.

Their flyer of 1905 could turn, bank, circle, and remain airborne for over 35 minutes. They established an aircraft company and produced planes for the U.S. Army. After Wilbur's death from typhoid, Orville sold his interest in the company, which later merged with the company of Glenn H. Curtiss.


No government regulations were required to innovate the technology- and no government subsidy was needed to develop the idea into a real airplane. In fact the technology didn't need any government intervention at all until the military started to buy airplanes!

They did it on their own.

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26 Sep 2012 10:32 #7 by FredHayek
And the market, $4 gas, is helping to voluntarily move people to more fuel efficient vehicles instead of draconian goverment regulation of the automotive industry.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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26 Sep 2012 11:19 #8 by BearMtnHIB
I'm sitting here wondering and how the left would look at the Wright Brothers today. They would see them as 1%'rs- elite white racist capitalist greedy bastards.

Their employees would be suing them for unsafe working conditions and low wages. The labor union would strike against them for better benefits and a retirement plan.

The government would have to step in to "solve the problem"

After Wilbur's death - Orville sold his interest in the company- and the left would complain that he didn't pay enough capital gains taxes!

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26 Sep 2012 11:48 #9 by FredHayek
If the Wright Brothers started out today? Sorry, you want to fly a heavier than air experimental aircraft over fragile dune enviroments? You will have to fill out a 100 page envorimental impact statement but I still doubt it will be approved. You have no seatbelts or airbags on your design, and very little OSHA mandated safety equipment, nor even a extinguisher.
Don't even ask what they would demand of Charles Lindbergh. Labor rules state you cannot fly more than 6 hours at a time, so you will need to add two other flight crew and a standby pilot.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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26 Sep 2012 11:56 #10 by archer
Nice try conservatives...boy you guys sure get testy, I've never seen so much "you did it too", "you liberals are guilty of this not us", "If conservatives are bad, liberals are worse" in one thread. You complain that all the intellectuals are liberals, and higher education teaches liberal values, then claim the innovation is a conservative ideal? Yeah, right.

Carry on........(and on, and on, and on)

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