No More Hope and Change a quick couple of examples

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archer wrote: I've never thought Romney was a moderate. He's a chameleon, changing what he looks like on the outside to appeal to his current audience. Inside I think he is a power hungry megalomaniac who thinks that being president will be the cap of his career, the ultimate ego trip. When he lets his guard down we see what an extreme conservative he is.

lol Really? You see him as a extreme conservative? Based on how he ran Massachussets I think he will be a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. He will save his political capital to cut spending.

That was my point....he had to be moderate to get elected in Mass....and to get anything done, so that is what he made himself into. Running for president he went far right so the tea party wouldn't be scared off. Now in the general election he is running both right and left depending on who he is taking to. The man doesn't seem to have any core belief....he is whatever you want him to be today. But the videos of him when he doesn't think he is being recorded tell a third story. He has no interest in average Americans, it's all about Mitt doing and saying whatever it takes to get elected and take care of people like him. Yep, that's a conservative.

Grady wrote:

Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax Plan
The Obama campaign blasted out another email claiming that Mitt Romney's tax plan would either require raising taxes on the middle class or blowing a hole in the deficit. "Even the studies that Romney has cited to claim his plan adds up still show he would need to raise middle-class taxes," said the Obama campaign press release. "In fact, Harvard economist Martin Feldstein and Princeton economist Harvey Rosen both concede that paying for Romney’s tax cuts would require large tax increases on families making between $100,000 and $200,000."

But that's not true. Princeton professor Harvey Rosen tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email that the Obama campaign is misrepresenting his paper on Romney's tax plan

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They can't win if they don't cheat

This $5 trillion false claim is about all I see in the Obama commercials lately.

I wonder if Biden will bring it up in the VP debate? If so, I've got to think Ryan will be prepared for it.

When you have Obama's own deputy campaign manager stipulating it's false, and the author of the paper saying the campaign is misrepresenting the paper, I'd be shocked to see them bring it up again in a debate where the other person can respond. In commercials yes, but not again in a debate.

archer wrote: That was my point....he had to be moderate to get elected in Mass....and to get anything done, so that is what he made himself into. Running for president he went far right so the tea party wouldn't be scared off. Now in the general election he is running both right and left depending on who he is taking to. The man doesn't seem to have any core belief....he is whatever you want him to be today. But the videos of him when he doesn't think he is being recorded tell a third story. He has no interest in average Americans, it's all about Mitt doing and saying whatever it takes to get elected and take care of people like him. Yep, that's a conservative.

I see him more as a Clinton. He does believe in many Republican ideas, but would prefer to be a successful president and get re-elected than try to ram his agenda down people's throats. I think he will actually be a check on the more extreme TEA party crowd. Make them realize if they want to get any of their ideas passed, they will have to make it palatable to the Dem Senate.

But you have been listening to the lefties here who have been trying to make Mitt into a monster since the primaries started.

One reason I think Romney did so well in the debate. The independents weren't watching the Republican debates so their first chance to see a neutral representation of the Massachusets governor was this debate. Huge ratings. And the independent vote is climbing to 30% of the electorate.

I wish you were right (no pun intended), but I think you are seeing Romney the way you want him to be, not the reality of who he is. I watched all the Republican debates....and what I saw and heard from him is not what you describe....and it certainly isn't what we are seeing now. Why should I, or anyone, believe that this new Mitt is the real Mitt, and that far right extreme Mitt who catered to the Tea Party during the primary is the impostor. Any candidate who can morph himself so easily and act like it never happened is not to be trusted.....especially not with the country I love.

$4.8 Trillion...$4.9 Trillion... $5 Trillion... What's a $100billion here or there when you get up to there. The number is between $4.8 and $5 trillion, and it's provable, based on his stated goal of giving everyone, including the 1% a 20% tax cut.

He's on video saying it...And then he comes into a debate and lies about it. Whoops...Another Mitt-Flop... Mitt is whatever you want him to be..for the moment...And then he'll be something else. He doesn't know WHY he wants to be president...It's just the next thing to put on his resume.

5 trillion? Where is that number from? Oh yeah, that is how much BHO has added to the debt in four years.

That number is from the CBO, based on giving 20% tax cuts to everyone, with no revenues to offset it.

Please try to pay attention.

(Hmmmm, was it $4trillion or $5trillion that Bush added to the debt with TWO unnecessary unpaid for wars, unpaid-for tax-cuts, $750Billion drug benefits, and the TARP bailout to cover the Recession he was responsible for?)

The recession that started under Clinton's watch with the dot.com bust and was further fed by 9/11?

Didn't see "W" blaming slick Willie for that for the next eight years, did you?

Or the recession the Dems created in 2005 by saying the economy was the worst its ever been? And encouraging people to sit on their wallets?

Democracy4Sale wrote: That number is from the CBO, based on giving 20% tax cuts to everyone, with no revenues to offset it.

Please try to pay attention.

(Hmmmm, was it $4trillion or $5trillion that Bush added to the debt with TWO unnecessary unpaid for wars, unpaid-for tax-cuts, $750Billion drug benefits, and the TARP bailout to cover the Recession he was responsible for?)

Not true. The CBO never looked at Romney's tax plan.

We have Obama's own deputy campaign manager stipulating the $5 trillion is not true, and the author of a paper quoted by Obama's campaign denying it too. Plus I could throw in factcheck.org...

Obama accused Romney of proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. Not true. Romney proposes to offset his rate cuts and promises he won’t add to the deficit.

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-denver-debate-declarations/