remember abu ghraub

I personally am tired of various administrations pulling BS and then trying to act like nothing happened. Down right lying about things. Obama is not the first and will not be the last. That is what is wrong with this country. Congress is included in this.

Photo-fish wrote: We really need another Benghazi thread Bob?
What do you think Abu Garaib has to do with this?

And now "conservatives" are outraged at the way this administration is conducting the investigation of the death of four Americans in Libya?!

You demand perfection from Democrats, and not only excuse but vote for historically incompetent Republicans?

And then you have the nerve to be self-righteous about it?

In this thread my outrage has nothing to do with the the administrations likely incompetence. It is all about how the media covers it. I have never excused republicans, incompetent or otherwise. They are all part of the political class. Why do you excuse incompetent democrats?

Repeating the same bullsh*t in ALL-CAPS when you still don't know all the details just makes you look stupid and hyper-partisan.

How about those Broncos.....

And Jeep is STILL "not moving ALL of their production to China".... :Snooze

Blazer Bob wrote:

Photo-fish wrote: We really need another Benghazi thread Bob?
What do you think Abu Garaib has to do with this?

And now "conservatives" are outraged at the way this administration is conducting the investigation of the death of four Americans in Libya?!

You demand perfection from Democrats, and not only excuse but vote for historically incompetent Republicans?

And then you have the nerve to be self-righteous about it?

In this thread my outrage has nothing to do with the the administrations likely incompetence. It is all about how the media covers it. I have never excused republicans, incompetent or otherwise. They are all part of the political class. Why do you excuse incompetent democrats?

The media will eventually catch up to the real news instead of binders and tax returns (after the election of course)

Democracy4Sale wrote: t makes you look stupid and hyper-partisan.

rofllol rofllol rofllol rofllol rofllol rofllol rofllol but I repeat myself.

How about those Broncos.....

And Jeep is STILL "NOT moving ALL of their production to China".... :Snooze RMoney is a LIAR...(Imagine my surprise...)

Democracy4Sale wrote: How about those Broncos.....

And Jeep is STILL "NOT moving ALL of their production to China".... :Snooze RMoney is a LIAR...(Imagine my surprise...)

didn't hear anything about jeep moving at all.

navycpo7 wrote:

Democracy4Sale wrote: How about those Broncos.....

And Jeep is STILL "NOT moving ALL of their production to China".... :Snooze RMoney is a LIAR...(Imagine my surprise...)

didn't hear anything about jeep moving at all.

Romney has used it in both his stump speech and his commercials. Unfortunately his campaign team misunderstood....or choose to misunderstand what is really happening. Chrysler wants to open new markets for Jeep in China and plans to open a manufacturing plant there...Romney is saying that Chrysler is moving ALL it's jeep manufacturing to China. As far as I know he is only claiming this in Ohio where, surprise, there is a jeep plant

archer wrote: As far add I knee he is only claiming this on Ohio whet, surprise, there is a keep plant

Far be it from me to criticize for spelling etc., but could you please translate this one? Your cell phone keyboard was too small today...

Since a whole thread was started on this, I'll post it again:

Yes, folks... In the "Lying-Sack-of-S**t" Department, we have a winner.....

Romney picks up incorrect story about Jeep production moving to China

Washington — Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney told a rally in northern Ohio on Thursday night that Chrysler was considering moving production of its Jeep vehicles to China, apparently reacting to incorrect reports circulating online.

"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China," Romney said at a rally in Defiance, Ohio, home to a General Motors powertrain plant. "I will fight for every good job in America. I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair America will win."

Romney was apparently responding to reports Thursday on right-leaning blogs that misinterpreted a recent Bloomberg News story earlier this week that said Chrysler, owned by Italian automaker Fiat SpA, is thinking of building Jeeps in China for sale in the Chinese market.

The Bloomberg story, though accurate, "has given birth to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. work force. It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats," Chrysler spokesman Gualberto Ranieri said.

And, heeeeeeere's Jeep..."To set the record straight":

"Let's set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It's simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world's largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation."

The Bloomberg story, however, sparked the confusion in the first paragraph of the story, saying Chrysler planned to return Jeep output to China "and may eventually make all of its models in that country."

But the reporter included Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia, later in the story referring to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

"The truth is that Chrysler is not moving its Jeep production from America to China. As Chrysler said today, 'Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China.' And what's more: President Obama has fought on behalf of U.S. auto workers by challenging unfair Chinese tariffs on U.S. auto exports to China, including Jeeps, while Romney would have let the American auto industry and a million jobs go under."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... n-to-China

No, Mr. Romney: Jeep Is Not Moving All Its Factories to China

That's the kind of line that you can expect to fire up a crowd on the campaign trail, especially a crowd in a town like Defiance, which is home to a General Motors (GM) factory.

There's just one problem: It's not true.

Yes, Chrysler Might Build Jeeps in China. But ...

Here's what is true: Chrysler is indeed considering a plan to make Jeeps in China. But it's not planning to send those Jeeps to the U.S. to sell -- and it's definitely not planning to close the factories that currently make Jeeps in Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio.

Why would Chrysler want to make Jeeps in China? Lots of reasons, but one big one in particular: China places heavy taxes on imported cars and trucks. Non-Chinese automakers that want to do business in China's booming auto market are almost always better off building their cars and trucks locally.

Nearly all of the automakers you've ever heard of are either building cars in China already or making plans to do so.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/10/26/ ... -false-gm/

Oh, and by the way:

For additional context, it's worth noting that the Detroit News reports today that Chrysler is adding an additional 1,100 new jobs. Why? To add a third shift to build more Jeeps right here in the United States.

But, hey:

"We Won’t ‘Let Our Campaign Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers’

The Romney campaign has been rebutted by many fact-checking organizations over inaccuracies in the claim, and during a panel discussion today, Romney pollster Neil Newhouse responded to the criticism, saying, “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/romney-p ... -checkers/

Soooo, kiddies, our "Lying-Sack-of-Sh*t" Award today goes TO:.......[drum roll] Mitt-the-Twit RMoney!!!!

"We don' need no steenkin' facts...."

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Now, TODAY, we have this:

SHAMELESS: Romney Campaign Doubles Down On Wildly Dishonest Ad
Romney Jeep Ad Continues To Provoke Controversy

The spot states that Obama took the auto companies through bankruptcy, without acknowledging that that was Romney's plan as well. It says that the Detroit News endorsed Romney, without noting that the endorsement included a criticism of Romney's position on the auto bailout. It states that Romney has a "plan to help the auto industry," though as Politico's Ben White noted, the Romney campaign hasn't offered reporters any such plan. Finally, it cites a debunked report from Bloomberg to suggest that Chrysler will be returning Jeep production to China, without explaining that the company is doing so to cater to a growing Chinese market and isn't moving any U.S. jobs there to accommodate that demand.

And yet, the Romney campaign has refused to back off the ad. At first, aides refused to actually comment on it. By Monday, however, they were a bit more defiant about its content.

On a conference call a few hours later, Steve Rattner, who oversaw the auto bailout for Obama, added that he had personally been in touch with officials at Chrysler to get an honest sense of the story. The company, he said, was simply increasing production in China to meet a growing demand there.

"It obviously makes sense to manufacture some or all of those cars closer to the customer rather than shipping them across the world," he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... 39898.html





And Jeep is STILL "NOT moving ALL of their production to China".... :Snooze RMoney is a LIAR...(Imagine my surprise...)