The Benghazi Smoking Gun?

09 Nov 2012 11:08 #71 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: It was sad to see all the excuses made here for administration ineptitiude.


I have to go with VL here...

Bush starts two unnecessary, unpaid-for wars that kill a million (if you count the civilians), kill nearly 5,000 in Iraq, and another couple of thousand in Afghanistan, maims and wounds hundreds of thousands that will be on VA/Disability for the rest of their lives....and you're okay with that... But my god, let 4 people get killed by a mob on Obama's watch, and that's a "crisis"...

How about the 3,000+ from 9/11 that got killed on Bush's watch?

How about the 63 who died in the bombing of the Embassy in Beirut?

Are you just as condemning of the presidents then? I think not...Because they had an (R) after their name. We're still hearing all of the excuses made on those too...

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11 Nov 2012 10:38 - 11 Nov 2012 12:53 #72 by Raees
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Fascinating timeline on Beghazi released by Fox News.

The Secretary of Defense and Joint Chiefs chairman weren't told for nearly an hour after the Beghazi attack began. The President wasn't informed by them for 90 minutes - and that was during a previously scheduled meeting with the two. The timeline answers a lot of questions and raises more about the military response.

“It’s not like you dial up the U.S. military and service members go down a fire pole, hop on a fire engine and go. That’s not how our forces work, especially from a cold start,” according to the senior U.S. defense official who briefed the Pentagon timeline. “We are an excellent military, finest in the world, always prepared, but we are neither omniscient nor omnipresent.”

The CIF, which included dozens of Special Operators, was never utilized to help rescue 30 Americans who had fought off attackers on the ground in Benghazi until 5:26 a.m. on Sept. 12. Pentagon officials say it did not arrive in time to help.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... questions/

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11 Nov 2012 11:34 #73 by mtntrekker
And thereafter Ambassador to UN Susan Rice is busy touting the video to the American people.

So much for transparency.

Can't trust one word that comes from the President or his admin.

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"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government." Thomas Jefferson

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11 Nov 2012 13:59 #74 by Raees
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It must be weird to have such a closed mind, unwilling to listen to all sides before forming an opinion.

You, and others on here, are absolutely convinced the President is at fault before all the facts even come out.

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11 Nov 2012 15:45 #75 by deltamrey
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Facts:
HC removed all unuformed Marines from the White House immediately after she "took office"
HC has been a Muslim sympathiser way back even into WJCs administration
HC was (is ??) a Palisitian sympathiser (many photo ops with Arafat and his head woman)

Her track record is well established ---she is soft on our enemies.

9/11/2012 the embasy is attacked by a terrorist unit and four brave Americans are MURDERED
Immediately thereafter State clearly indicated it was a popular uprising (UN Ambasador stated many times)
HC indicates post election she is leaving SOS job soon.....WJC probably advised to run and hide ASAP
CIA Director recently was stung by FBI and resigns
Obama is elected President 11/2012

CONNECT THE DOTS

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11 Nov 2012 15:53 #76 by deltamrey
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To be clear....US Military MUST be requested bt State to provide support......PERIOD.

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11 Nov 2012 16:50 #77 by Raees
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deltamrey wrote: Facts:
HC removed all unuformed Marines from the White House immediately after she "took office"


Just looking at your "facts," the first one surprises me. I had no idea the Secretary of State had the power to remove Marines from the White House (Yankee White). Who are those guys in uniform opening the doors, then?



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11 Nov 2012 17:06 #78 by Raees
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mtntrekker wrote: And thereafter Ambassador to UN Susan Rice is busy touting the video to the American people.

"In my Sept. 16 Sunday show appearances, I was asked to provide the administration's latest understanding of what happened in Benghazi," Rice wrote in a Thursday letter to Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Ron Johnson (R-WI) and Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC). "In answering, I relied solely and squarely on the information the intelligence community provided to me and other senior U.S. officials, including through the daily intelligence briefings that present the latest reporting and analysis to policy makers. This information represented the intelligence community's best, current assessment as of the date of my television appearances, and I went out of my way to ensure it was consistent with the information that was being given to Congress."

Rice was responding to a Sept. 26 letter from the GOP senators in which they accused Rice of jumping the gun and disseminating false information about the attack. The letter quotes Rice's comments selectively, leaving out the context where she cautioned that the information was based on initial assessments. Rice emphasized in her response that she had caveated her remarks in her TV appearances.

She also pointed to a Sept. 28 statement from Shawn Turner, spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admitting that the intelligence community had changed its view of the attack.


http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... _community

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11 Nov 2012 17:52 #79 by deltamrey
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HC removed the marines when she was "first....." AND she and WJC sold plots in Arlington to political friends
some of which were dug up and moved......record is very clear.

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11 Nov 2012 18:00 #80 by Raees
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deltamrey wrote: HC removed the marines when she was "first....." AND she and WJC sold plots in Arlington to political friends


some of which were dug up and moved......record is very clear.


Since I can find NO reference to that happening and you haven't provided a link, I'll have to take your word on it.



As for your other "fact"

The allegations that burial plots were "sold" were quickly shown to be false, and widely denounced as among the most vicious of the Republicans' many smears of then-President Clinton. Ted Koppel said on the December 5, 1997, edition of ABC's Nightline that the "mudslinging" showed "Washington had hit a new low" and that "there is absolutely no evidence that the Clinton administration ever sold or approved or recommended that burial plots at Arlington National Cemetery be made available to major campaign donors." New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd noted on November 22, 1997: "The Republican investigators for the House Veterans Affairs subcommittee were so sloppy that they had not even checked for any contribution records of the nine exemptions they called 'suspicious' before Republican leaders began ranting about them." And the Seattle Post-Intelligencer noted in a November 29, 1997, editorial that after West released the list of waivers, "the baying and howling from Republicans was replaced with an embarrassed silence," and concluded: "This mean-spirited debacle is indeed a national disgrace. It is an insult to the sacrifice and memories of all those interred at Arlington, especially those who we accused of arriving there as the result of anything but exemplary service to their nation."


http://mediamatters.org/research/2004/1 ... -di/132505

What this has to do with Benghazi eludes me, since Marines have been stationed at U.S. embassies under SoS Clinton.

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