Should you be allowed to bring concealed guns to the library

07 Nov 2012 13:52 #1 by CinnamonGirl
Boulder's public libraries debate whether to allow concealed weapons



http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/lo ... ed-weapons

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07 Nov 2012 13:56 #2 by FredHayek
I vote yes. It doen't make the library anymore dangerous, every day you are probably making contact with people who legally carry concealed and you wouldn't even know it most of the time.

I have been carrying for over 8 years and have never been revealed or had to use it.

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07 Nov 2012 14:18 #3 by RenegadeCJ
Yes, of course you should. No govt should be able to ban you, IF you have a valid concealed carry permit. It likely makes the library safer.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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07 Nov 2012 14:19 #4 by Martin Ent Inc
Concealed means concealed.

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07 Nov 2012 14:31 #5 by cydl
Of course. There is no reason to bar a lawfully armed citizen anywhere.

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07 Nov 2012 15:00 #6 by Grady

cydl wrote: Of course. There is no reason to bar a lawfully armed citizen anywhere.

:yeahthat: :like:

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07 Nov 2012 15:11 #7 by Something the Dog Said
Except that the Constitution, according to the most recent Supreme Court decisions, allows govenrments to regulate the use and carrying and type of arms. According to the Heller decision, the only place where the government may not prohibit the carrying and use of guns is in your home. Otherwise, the government may regulate the place where one may carry a gun. Further, private homes and businesses (not applicable in the case of libraries) may prohibit the carrying of guns. According to Justice Scalia:

. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

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07 Nov 2012 15:23 #8 by navycpo7
The right to carry concealed should not be hinged on anything or stopped by anything or anyone. It is call concealed for a reason and if one has the permit to do so legally then it should not be infringed upon. IMO

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07 Nov 2012 15:32 #9 by FredHayek

Something the Dog Said wrote: Except that the Constitution, according to the most recent Supreme Court decisions, allows govenrments to regulate the use and carrying and type of arms. According to the Heller decision, the only place where the government may not prohibit the carrying and use of guns is in your home. Otherwise, the government may regulate the place where one may carry a gun. Further, private homes and businesses (not applicable in the case of libraries) may prohibit the carrying of guns. According to Justice Scalia:

. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.


Just because a goverment has the right to do it, doesn't mean it is a smart thing to do.

Example: ban it? So if I was going to the library, I see the sign, walk back to my car, lock up my loaded gun in the interior. I could be seen doing this by someone who wants a gun and breaks into my car. Now instead of a responsible legal citizen carrying you have an unlicensed person with a loaded stolen pistol.

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07 Nov 2012 15:37 #10 by Something the Dog Said
Since the government has the right to do so, then in my opinion, it is up to a local community to decide whether it is appropriate or not based on their local community standards. So I believe that Boulder is correct in having a discussion on the policy in their local libraries. Certainly if you do not feel safe being without your guns, then you have the right to go to another library or another community that suits your needs.

If you are concerned about leaving loaded weapons in your vehicle, then do as most responsible gun owners do and have a bolted down lock box securely mounted in your vehicle.

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