'Our party is dead, unless there's a shakeup'

'Our (GOTP) party is dead, unless there's a shakeup'
Republican Party Path Back From 2012 Election Requires Shift In Culture, Not Just Tactics

How will the Republican Party and the broader conservative movement it's meant to embody fix their problems with the poor, the disadvantaged, women and minorities? How will the Republican Party evolve?

Romney's loss forced the GOP to recognize that its support is built on a shrinking base of aging, ethnically monolithic, and geographically isolated voters -- while the Democrats have amassed a coalition of growing and engaged constituencies. As one very senior Senate Republican aide put it to me, the party can't win national and statewide elections just with "older white people" anymore.

Nationally, the country's biggest and fastest-growing minority, Latinos, went for Obama 71 percent to 27 percent, marking an enormous shift in just eight years. In 2004, President George W. Bush got between 40 and 44 percent of the Latino vote. But then, after the bitter immigration reform fight of 2007, in which anti-immigrant voices gained ground on the right, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) stumbled badly among Hispanics in the 2008 election, getting only 31 percent.

Obama's advantage among Asians was even bigger. He got 73 percent to Romney's 26 percent, up from a 62 to 35 edge on McCain in 2008. In 2004, Asians backed Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) by 56 to 43 percent over Bush.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/1 ... f=politics

If you actually read the article, all of this information, and all of these quotes came directly from "post-mortem" conference put on by the Heritage Foundation... But feel free to go look up your own "alternate-reality" version of the numbers...(Even though every polling organization came up with the same numbers....AFTER the election...)

And, of course, I hope they jus' keep doin' what they're doin'...

How the GOP can recover? The Dems will overplay their hand and/or the Obama recession and high unemployment will continue past 2016.

People were sick of "W" by 2006, who long before they weary of Obama?

I have an idea that the new paychecks people are getting with more taken out are already causing some rumbles and today an announcement that taxes will go up for everyone. About time people start looking at why they voted for the Pres. 2014 will be pivotal.

Every losing party in an election is "dead" unless they shake it up. The Dems were considered done until Clinton came along. I have a feeling the Republicans are going to learn how to correct their course and win elections again. It's the nature of the beast. When there are really only two major parties, they will ebb and flow through time.

Soulshiner wrote: Every losing party in an election is "dead" unless they shake it up. The Dems were considered done until Clinton came along. I have a feeling the Republicans are going to learn how to correct their course and win elections again. It's the nature of the beast. When there are really only two major parties, they will ebb and flow through time.

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Clinton only won because Perot split the vote.

FredHayek wrote: Clinton only won because Perot split the vote.

Except, though his policies were conservative, Perot's broad appeal was his anti-establishment reformist persona. That's not the kind of voting block that lists the unpopular incumbent President and Washington veteran Bush as its #2 choice.

Runoff election trends at the state and local levels suggest that in most cases the third party voting block overwhelming either (a) doesn't vote with their candidate gone or (b) goes against the incumbent.

FredHayek wrote: Clinton only won because Perot split the vote.

he split the vote of both Republicans and Democrats, I think it was probably a wash. I voted for Perot, a lot of fellow liberals voted for Perot....I wasn't even aware that Republicans were voting for him too. If any 3rd party candidate influenced an election it would be Nader.

I would agree the old school republicans are dead, and maybe the idea of fiscal sanity is dead too, and the reps will never win again. Personally if "a shake up" means becoming democrats...why waste your time. The republicans need to stick to fiscal conservatism, and win or lose with that. Our society is increasingly becoming dependent on govt to provide for them...why would they vote for individualism?

The sad thing is, the democrat model is a diminished America....you can't have a massive govt and a country with roaring growth. Those two are polar opposites. I feel bad for the next generation....they will never know what they missed out on.