Total Afghan Withdrawl?

12 Jan 2013 12:26 #11 by akilina
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Heisenberg wrote: We're never going to be able to go after all the cockroaches that want to kill US citizens so we may as well let them take over Afghanistan again and wait until they congregate. Our mission should be to establish better intel in the ME and zap the scumbags from the air without getting our hands dirty. Of course this would require help from the governments involved who don't want terrorists. We also have to remember how much more breathing room Iran will have once we leave the area... we're obviously not going to prevent them from getting nukes, so I hope we keep our defense state of the art as our military is gutted.


Ahhh missed this post.

So is it really possible to keep our defense state of the art with the military gutted?

IN NOVEMBER 2014, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE! DONT BLOW IT!

“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only whit man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” Indian Chief Two Eagles

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12 Jan 2013 13:07 #12 by Rick
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akilina wrote:

Heisenberg wrote: We're never going to be able to go after all the cockroaches that want to kill US citizens so we may as well let them take over Afghanistan again and wait until they congregate. Our mission should be to establish better intel in the ME and zap the scumbags from the air without getting our hands dirty. Of course this would require help from the governments involved who don't want terrorists. We also have to remember how much more breathing room Iran will have once we leave the area... we're obviously not going to prevent them from getting nukes, so I hope we keep our defense state of the art as our military is gutted.


Ahhh missed this post.

So is it really possible to keep our defense state of the art with the military gutted?

And there lies the problem... if the armed forcess were run like a business that's objective was to maximize efficency and minimize expenses, there would be a chance for a lean mean fighting machine. But it's no better than the worthless bureaurats that run our inefficent government. Taxpayer money is easier to waste than anything on the planet when you're not accountable for efficiency.

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12 Jan 2013 13:23 #13 by chickaree
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Afghanistan has defeated everyone since Alexander. It is foolish to think we can change their culture. Bring our boys home. There is no winning scenario for s there.

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12 Jan 2013 14:03 #14 by Mtn Gramma
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13 Jan 2013 09:40 #15 by Rick
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chickaree wrote: Afghanistan has defeated everyone since Alexander. It is foolish to think we can change their culture. Bring our boys home. There is no winning scenario for s there.

I agree, we need to bring them home and prepare our armed forces for the consequences of AQ spreading and growing stronger. One day they will hit us again and everyone will be shocked and horrified like we were on 9/11. But at least we gave it a shot, even if it was a hopeless endeavor.

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13 Jan 2013 12:27 #16 by Raees
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If not AQ, then some other terrorist group. Perhaps it will come from within again, as it did with Timothy McVeigh.

What I mean is, AQ is not the only group to worry about.

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13 Jan 2013 13:43 #17 by akilina
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Raees wrote: If not AQ, then some other terrorist group. Perhaps it will come from within again, as it did with Timothy McVeigh.

What I mean is, AQ is not the only group to worry about.


And will we be ready?

IN NOVEMBER 2014, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE! DONT BLOW IT!

“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only whit man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” Indian Chief Two Eagles

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13 Jan 2013 13:55 #18 by Raees
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With as much as we're spending on defense, we damn sure better be ready --- or as ready as any country can be for an attack of unknown means and place, but that's why it's called terrorism.

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13 Jan 2013 14:15 #19 by homeagain
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Rick wrote:

chickaree wrote: Afghanistan has defeated everyone since Alexander. It is foolish to think we can change their culture. Bring our boys home. There is no winning scenario for s there.

I agree, we need to bring them home and prepare our armed forces for the consequences of AQ spreading and growing stronger. One day they will hit us again and everyone will be shocked and horrified like we were on 9/11. But at least we gave it a shot, even if it was a hopeless endeavor.


GOOD post......(both) but I don't think anyone will be shocked,perhaps horrified,but not shocked.....it's ONLY a matter of time and
AQ is VERY good at time/waiting/patience. IF the strong belief/will is present...which it is within that group.....there will be ANOTHER
attack.

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13 Jan 2013 14:51 #20 by FredHayek
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Mtn Gramma wrote: :yeahthat:

I think it's time to bring our troops home. I'm tired of being the world's policeman and throwing our young people at missiles and IEDs. If the military has to be in a war, let it be one in this country against leaky borders and drug/gun runners.

Some people were up in arms (no pun intended) over the UN wanting to monitor our elections. Yet the US has no qualms thinking it has the right to monitor other countries'.

No one appointed us as overseer of the world and I think it's time to stop.


Maybe that is one of Obama's long term goals. Who will take our place? Today French air assets are attacking Islamist rebels trying to take over the country of Mali.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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