China wants more nuclear plants

21 Jan 2013 16:49 #1 by Blazer Bob
http://www.economist.com/news/china/215 ... back-front


"EARLIER this month work began at a big construction site in Shandong province, south-east of Beijing. In a country overflowing with infrastructure projects, that seems unremarkable. Except the workers are restarting construction of a nuclear plant using a radical new design developed by Beijing’s Tsinghua University. This showcase of “indigenous innovation” is the clearest signal yet that China’s nuclear power is about to take off again.

Before 2011 China’s leaders were dead keen on it, hoping to raise nuclear’s share of the country’s electricity mix from less than 2%. They saw it as central to energy and climate strategy, and a future export platform. Official plans called for expanding from just 10 gigawatts of capacity in 2010 to as much as 200 gigawatts by 2030.".........................
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21 Jan 2013 17:00 #2 by FredHayek
70% of their electricity is provided by coal. Even the bigwigs are probably tired of the pollution in Beijing.

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21 Jan 2013 17:03 #3 by LOL
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They are correct in realizing Nuclear needs to be part of their future generation base load.

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21 Jan 2013 17:29 #4 by ScienceChic
I vaguely recall a news story about Japan planning to replace the nuclear plants that were wiped out by the tsunami with ocean wind farms. I'm not as thrilled about plans for nuclear power generation until we figure out a safe solution of what to do with the radioactive waste, but recognize that it has to be a part of the solution of getting us off of fossil fuels for now. Good for China for working on this, they are consuming way too much coal as it is.

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21 Jan 2013 17:49 #5 by Blazer Bob

Science Chic wrote: I vaguely recall a news story about Japan planning to replace the nuclear plants that were wiped out by the tsunami with ocean wind farms. I'm not as thrilled about plans for nuclear power generation until we figure out a safe solution of what to do with the radioactive waste, but recognize that it has to be a part of the solution of getting us off of fossil fuels for now. Good for China for working on this, they are consuming way too much coal as it is.



Got a link to prove that? J/K. :woo hoo: I seem to recall that also. In the meantime last I heard they are rationing. How many wind mills does it take to replace nuc power plant?

So Japan and Germany are decommissioning them and China is building more. Is there any net change in the planets carbon footprint?

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21 Jan 2013 18:04 #6 by ScienceChic
[lmgtfy:3papzp1h]Japan wind farm replace nuclear[/lmgtfy:3papzp1h] :wink: I would guess it depends on how well the wind blows at that location to generate equal amounts of power to the plants that were destroyed. Hopefully they use newer, more efficient wind mill designs too.

No, we're still increasing our carbon use and GHG ppm to the atmosphere thanks to India and China using big time and continued forest removal, among other things.

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22 Jan 2013 14:08 #7 by Grady
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Don't tell anyone, but I am working on a matter/anti-matter reactor with a dilithium regulated reaction power source.

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23 Jan 2013 07:39 #8 by FredHayek
Per the Week, pollution is getting so bad in Beijing that they can't land planes some times because of limited visibility.

A Chinese Communist rush program to bring nuclear plants on line is a little scary to me. And poor Japan is downwind.

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23 Jan 2013 07:44 #9 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: Per the Week, pollution is getting so bad in Beijing that they can't land planes some times because of limited visibility.

A Chinese Communist rush program to bring nuclear plants on line is a little scary to me. And poor Japan is downwind.

I would hope that they build those plants better than they do the products the sell to us.

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23 Jan 2013 11:07 #10 by LOL
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Nuclear waste, as lethal and dangerous as it is, is still much lower qty. and easier to contain on the ground than millions of tons of C02 loose in the atmosphere. China has also built a massive Hydro project, saw it on the History channel, pretty impressive.

The limits of solar and wind are they are not stable enough 24/7. They require parallel natural gas generators to kick in when the sun doesn't shine or wind is calm. Or some other expensive storage technology.

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