Big government, the public interest and pot

I just finished a conversation with a friend of mine who is in the industry. Apparently the gov. mandates the number, brand, model and direction of security cameras. There is a whole lot more but I did not take notes and the details are not relevant to me. If they are too you google it.

Is there anyone who would like to take a stab at explaining why any of this is in the public's interest.

Not sure what industry, security cameras, MMJ, or ? Cameras in a pot shop? Need more details (or I'm just slow)

Rick wrote: Not sure what industry, security cameras, MMJ, or ? Cameras in a pot shop? Need more details (or I'm just slow)

Growing and selling. Camera in the shop and at the grow site.

Blazer Bob wrote:

Rick wrote: Not sure what industry, security cameras, MMJ, or ? Cameras in a pot shop? Need more details (or I'm just slow)

Growing and selling. Camera in the shop and at the grow site.

I typed camera. I meant cameras, dozens. Mandated by the state.

Interesting, I wonder what connections there are between the camera makers and the regulation creators. Money exchanges, or something more mundane, like requiring recording devices of a certain quality.

During the gold rush, the ones who made the real money were the merchants who supplied the prospectors. I read that Colorado security companies made a lot of money off all the medical marijuana shops created in the last decade. I suspect they will make even more off recreational shops.

From a grower/retailer perspective I would want cameras to keep a video record just like you find in other commercial production and retail facilities. The reasons why are legion; employee theft and fraud, break ins, burglaries, inventory management, robberies, and keeping track of customers.

Why any particular make/model/brand? Many insurance companies will specify that a retailer and/or production facility have an intrusion detection system that is UL certified. UL certification provides a high level of confidence that the system does what it is designed to do and cannot be altered to delete specific alarms and records.

Since pot is a soft drug and the State Gubment is involved I suspect (but can't prove) that every bit of pot grown, produced, and sold is fully accounted for and taxed. Imagine the side business a commercial grower could conduct if the Gubment wasn't keeping a close watch on them. Then again, imagine the side business a commercial grower could do with the right corrupt Gubment officials on the job.

I don't smoke pot and I'm against the recreational use of pot. Those with valid medical needs are a different story and I think it would be wrong to deny those who have a valid need their medication. That being said, the money is green and it all spends the same no matter where it comes from. Now that pot is legal in Colorado I say crank up production and tax it just like tobacco.

otisptoadwater wrote: From a grower/retailer perspective I would want cameras to keep a video record just like you find in other commercial production and retail facilities. The reasons why are legion; employee theft and fraud, break ins, burglaries, inventory management, robberies, and keeping track of customers.

Why any particular make/model/brand? Many insurance companies will specify that a retailer and/or production facility have an intrusion detection system that is UL certified. UL certification provides a high level of confidence that the system does what it is designed to do and cannot be altered to delete specific alarms and records.

Since pot is a soft drug and the State Gubment is involved I suspect (but can't prove) that every bit of pot grown, produced, and sold is fully accounted for and taxed. Imagine the side business a commercial grower could conduct if the Gubment wasn't keeping a close watch on them. Then again, imagine the side business a commercial grower could do with the right corrupt Gubment officials on the job.

I don't smoke pot and I'm against the recreational use of pot. Those with valid medical needs are a different story and I think it would be wrong to deny those who have a valid need their medication. That being said, the money is green and it all spends the same no matter where it comes from. Now that pot is legal in Colorado I say crank up production and tax it just like tobacco.

!. so would I. I would not appreciate the government mandating what is in my best interest.

2. UL certified. I laugh. Last I heard UL on co detectors means it will not catch on fire not that it will save you from dieing from co poisoning.

3' Lastly, I also do not not smoke pot but am for the recreational use. I understand that almost everything but the air we breath is taxed but why is the security of the product subject to government regulation.
What public interest is served?

Jared Polis plans to submit a bill that would decriminalize pot on the federal level and let states regulate it and the feds could put an excise tax on it.

!. so would I. I would not appreciate the government mandating what is in my best interest.

2. UL certified. I laugh. Last I heard UL on co detectors means it will not catch on fire not that it will save you from dieing from co poisoning.

3' Lastly, I also do not not smoke pot but am for the recreational use. I understand that almost everything but the air we breath is taxed but why is the security of the product subject to government regulation.
What public interest is served?

We agree on why cameras are a good thing in production and retail facilities.

UL certification of consumer products that you can buy off the shelf is 180 degrees out of phase with a custom installed intrusion detection system. UL certified intrusion detection systems are tested and verified by independent agents on an annual basis; fail re-certification and loose insurance coverage, and in the case of Gubment operations, permission to continue to produce and sell product. I chose the word permission instead of ability because there are plenty of growing operations in business now and well before the change in the law.

What public interest is served? More revenue means more cash in the Gubment's coffers; ask any liberal, big Gubment is good. [sarcasm]We need more Gubment and we need it to take care of us because we obviously can't do it on our own. The Gubment knows what is good for us and it's time for us to stop being responsible for ourselves and our own well being, that's the Gubment's job.[/sarcasm]

I know many liberals who don't think big government is good. Everyone wants effective government, we just differ at the definition. I'm pretty sure the state regulates the security in casinos, so it is likely that they cut and pasted the same regs over to marijuana enforcement.