Poll: Gun Legislation

There are currently a number of bills being proposed in Colorado regarding the transfer of ownership of firearms, banning of high capacity magazines, guns on campus, fees for background checks, arming of school personnel, etc. What are your views? We hear the extremists on both sides, how about the rest?

First to clarify the two highest profile bills that are likely to pass in some form.
1) Universal background checks, House Bill 1229
The requirement for background checks will apply to all transfers of firearms with several exceptions.
the legislation provides exceptions for:
1) gifts between immediate family members;
2) antiques and curios;
3) inheritances;
4) temporary transfers (you will be able to loan your firearm to someone for hunting, target shooting, etc.)
5) temporary transfers at designated shooting ranges (you will be able to rent or borrow)
6) designated shooting competitions;
7) if the transferee reasonably believes they are in danger of imminent harm or death.
Background checks by private individuals can be performed on their behalf by licensed gun dealers who may charge no more than $10.00 for that service. The licensed gun dealer must record that transfer and maintain the records and give a copy to the individual who is transferring the firearm.

Penalty:
If you violate this law (assuming it is enacted), by not getting a background check or by knowingly providing false information, then you are liable for a misdemeanor class 1 (which prohibits you from owning any firearm for a period of two years) and for any civil damages that may be a result of the subsequent use of the firearm.


2) Banning of High Capacity magazines - House Bill 1226
Ban the manufacture, use or sale of magazines holding more than 15 rifle or pistol cartridges or 5 shotgun shells except those owned before July 1, 2013 would be grandfathered as long as in continuous possession (can't sell or give away).

I selected no on the universal background checks. Not that I have a problem with background checks on gun sales, I do have a problem with government keeping records of who owns what firearms. Now if that background check was a once in a lifetime or once every 5 years event type event such as the current CCW permit and during that time one could purchase as many firearms as they desire. I would support that.

I certainly don't want crazies or criminals getting their hands on firearms, but it is nobodies business what firearms I may or may not have had, that is before the terrible canoe accident of 2000.

My understanding that in Colorado and most states, the government DOES NOT maintain a gun registery. Instead, the gun seller is required to keep records of to whom the firearm was sold. If a gun is used in the commission of a crime, LE can start with the manufacturer via the serial number and trace the chain of ownership from seller to the final purchaser. Nobody other than the entity that sold you the firearm is aware that you own the firearm. There is no collective registery that lists the particular firearms that you own, and the current legislation will not change that fact.

I have to agree with Grady on this (by the way, Happy belated birthday)
Depends on the language of "universal background check".
I to have NO problem with background checks. I will never support a national or state database on who owns a gun though.

And where does this bill or any other bill legislate the creation of a national or state database on who owns a gun? Because it does not, nor is there any consideration of doing so. This is typical nonsense, make up "facts" to create an outrage when those "facts" simply do not exist.

The big bad boogie man government is not coming for your guns. There is no gun registry. No one other than the entity from whom you purchased your firearm will know that you own it. Those are the facts.

Boy, it's a good thing they will "never support a national or state database"...since there isn't one, and one is not being proposed.

I have been at my local gun shop when he was tracing a gun for the police. The owner was able to find out who bought the gun from him but couldn't say what happened after it left his shop. So it looks like we do have partial traceability.

Bummer...This thread started out pretty intelligent and then unfortunately slid off the cliff.....as usual.
I think it was a set up. LOL
Back to Bob's.

And just an FYI. I never said this bill included a database. Just said I would not favor one..
Should I type more slowly or in caps?

frogger wrote: And just an FYI. I never said this bill included a database. Just said I would not favor one..
Should I type more slowly or in caps?

Gee, I never said you did... I just said it's a good thing you don't favor one, since there isn't one.

LadyJazzer wrote: Boy, it's a good thing they will "never support a national or state database"...since there isn't one, and one is not being proposed.

I'm afraid I can't type any slower, so I guess you'll just have to read slower. But yeah, you better run back to Bob's... We wouldn't want you to have to actually think.