How Obama describes Jihad

gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?

No, It's not. I'm a Christian, but I recognize that there are many paths to follow, not just the one I'm on. I personally enjoy my path, and if someone wants to join me I'd be delighted to have the company. If not, we'll meet at the end where all paths join.

Nobody that matters wrote:

gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?

No, It's not. I'm a Christian, but I recognize that there are many paths to follow, not just the one I'm on. I personally enjoy my path, and if someone wants to join me I'd be delighted to have the company. If not, we'll meet at the end where all paths join.

That's about what I'd expect my Christian friends would say too... and they have never pushed their beliefs on me. I do occasionally have an old Mormon lady come to my door with some pamphlets but she's as harmless as any other sweet old lady.

Rick wrote:

gmule wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?
Some try to achieve this by knocking on your door others blow stuff up. Either way religion is all about control of other people.

Well... that solves the problem. Let's just make some bigoted all inclusive statement about world religions. If you had a choice, I can bet you would welcome the knock on the door over the alternative.

That was hardly a bigoted statement. I would just assume that all religion disappear. More wars have been started and more people have been killed all in the name of religion. This version is no different.

You can hope/pray/wish that all religion just goes away, but you'll be wasting your life doing it. So you have to deal with the reality of one element of one massive religion wanting to kill all non-believers. Radical Islam is a cancer of the larger group and we need to stay concerned about how fast that cancer is spreading.

The fact that Obama can't say the words "radical Islam" when describing these terrorists or when explaining Jihad is a mistake imo. He completely skipped the definition of Jihad and went right to the standard praise of the religion as a whole. This will only be seen as more weakness and fear of offending these Islamic terrorists.

I'm not losing sleep over what religion other people want to participate in. I actually don't care what religion others are either. You have your beliefs and I have mine. I agree that the jihad folks are a cancer.

Nobody that matters wrote:

gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?

No, It's not. I'm a Christian, but I recognize that there are many paths to follow, not just the one I'm on. I personally enjoy my path, and if someone wants to join me I'd be delighted to have the company. If not, we'll meet at the end where all paths join.

Nobody that matters wrote:

gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?

No, It's not. I'm a Christian, but I recognize that there are many paths to follow, not just the one I'm on. I personally enjoy my path, and if someone wants to join me I'd be delighted to have the company. If not, we'll meet at the end where all paths join.

Very well said.

The President responded pretty much the same way I would.

Christians have this phrase, "spiritual warfare" that can be easily misinterpreted among adherents, and
misrepresented by self-appointed social critics as well.

Jihad is Arabic for "struggle."
The vast majority of Muslims don't really even use the word.
Even among those that do - it's split between those that believe in struggle from a spiritual perspective, and those
that believe in literal, physical struggle. It generally depends on your school of thought.
I don't think a Hanifi Muslim would be terribly interested in jihad in any form. A Salafi would obviously see things different.

After over a decade of very public discourse, Americans still don't understand that Islamic world-views are every bit as diverse as Christian World Views.

I understand that Jihad has different meanings to different people, but the most sinister meaning is what Obama always seems to avoid talking about... and it is a growing reality.

I don't think you can avoid talking about the world view of extremists.

At the same time - separate extremism from religion (religion is a vehicle that can be used by extremists -
over the course of history, just about every religion has at one point been hijacked by extremists - including Hindu --- go figure!)

bailey bud wrote: I don't think you can avoid talking about the world view of extremists.

At the same time - separate extremism from religion (religion is a vehicle that can be used by extremists -
over the course of history, just about every religion has at one point been hijacked by extremists - including Hindu --- go figure!)

I agree 100%. I will focus on Hindu and Christian extremists when they start blowing stuff up around the world on a regular basis (In my lifetime, not ancient history).

Rick wrote:

bailey bud wrote: I don't think you can avoid talking about the world view of extremists.

At the same time - separate extremism from religion (religion is a vehicle that can be used by extremists -
over the course of history, just about every religion has at one point been hijacked by extremists - including Hindu --- go figure!)

I agree 100%. I will focus on Hindu and Christian extremists when they start blowing stuff up around the world on a regular basis (In my lifetime, not ancient history).

As soon as someone starts referencing ancient history... comparing something that happened 1000 years ago... to something that's NOT HAPPENING TODAY (er... like a modern Christian Crusade)... you know they are delving into moral equivalency and not wanting to really address the issue.