A very diplomatic answer....but he does recognize that there are extremists within the religion of Islam who distort the religion to kill innocent people in the name of Islam.....what's your (and FOX's) problem with that?
archer wrote: A very diplomatic answer....but he does recognize that there are extremists within the religion of Islam who distort the religion to kill innocent people in the name of Islam.....what's your (and FOX's) problem with that?
It was a very political answer. Obama spends 80% of his answer praising Islam... which in another time or place, certainly has merit. The girl was asking about Jihad... the kind of Jihad practiced by terrorist, by radical Islamic fundamentalist... not some inner quest for personal peace. Obama appears afraid of radical Islam, or in the least, that's the impression he gives. This girl lives smack dab in the middle of a very active zone of terrorism, much more so than we have experienced in the United States. She wasn't looking for a diplomatic answer... she was looking to the US president for strength. He failed.
I haven't see the video (thanks, CLink!) but if he described what Jihad actually means, a struggle, then I have to support him. Islam is a huge religion. A few extremists, using religion as an excuse for violence, doesn't mean all Muslims are violent. There are Christians who use their religion as an excuse for violence,but I know they are misguided at the root and are taking the tenets of our religion and twisting them to fit their personal beliefs indirect violation of the word of God. I have taken classes that studies other religions, and cou ter to what the popular media would want you to believe, Islam is not an inherently violent religion any more than Christianity is. These regions of the world would be violent right now no matter what religion they followed, or if they followed none. This is not an issue that can be laid at the feet of God, but at the feet of men. Men dream of war, not God. Men desire conquest through arms, not God.
chickaree wrote: I haven't see the video (thanks, CLink!) but if he described what Jihad actually means, a struggle, then I have to support him. Islam is a huge religion. A few extremists, using religion as an excuse for violence, doesn't mean all Muslims are violent. There are Christians who use their religion as an excuse for violence,but I know they are misguided at the root and are taking the tenets of our religion and twisting them to fit their personal beliefs indirect violation of the word of God. I have taken classes that studies other religions, and cou ter to what the popular media would want you to believe, Islam is not an inherently violent religion any more than Christianity is. These regions of the world would be violent right now no matter what religion they followed, or if they followed none. This is not an issue that can be laid at the feet of God, but at the feet of men. Men dream of war, not God. Men desire conquest through arms, not God.
Radical Islamic terrorist are not twisting anything. If you have taken comparative religion courses (and I don't mean one of those Education Lite 101 at some "free university") then you have certainly read the Koran all the way through. Radical Islamic terrorist are choosing to place an emphasis on the passages in the Koran that does call for proactive violence.
The majority of Muslim have tried to ignore these "call to arms" much in the same way that Christianity has evolved and rarely uses their scripture for an excuse to violently acquire territory and exercise forced conversion anymore.
But currently there is not an overly organized subset of any organized religion in the world, except in Islam, that has had the impact on societies as radical Islam has. Whether certain regions would be violent no matter what religion they follow begs the facts. Currently the religion in question is the radical fundamentalist branch of Islam.
There is an immediate need to eradicate this terror right now.
So all the pontificating and dreaming and shuffling the blame away from god, on god, without god... onto other religions... dredging up ancient history... whatever... doesn't change a single fact nor does it offer answers. The answer is succinct and simple and there is no confusion on who the target is.
Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?
Some try to achieve this by knocking on your door others blow stuff up. Either way religion is all about control of other people.
gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?
Some try to achieve this by knocking on your door others blow stuff up. Either way religion is all about control of other people.
Well... that solves the problem. Let's just make some bigoted all inclusive statement about world religions. If you had a choice, I can bet you would welcome the knock on the door over the alternative.
gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?
Some try to achieve this by knocking on your door others blow stuff up. Either way religion is all about control of other people.
Well... that solves the problem. Let's just make some bigoted all inclusive statement about world religions. If you had a choice, I can bet you would welcome the knock on the door over the alternative.
That was hardly a bigoted statement. I would just assume that all religion disappear. More wars have been started and more people have been killed all in the name of religion. This version is no different.
Rick wrote: Another classic:
https
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru01VNl9mic
What an embarrassment
(can't get a youtube vid to work anymore, sry)
[offtopic:3iklofux]fixed it - you have to take the "s" off of the https.[/offtopic:3iklofux]
I think it would've been a better answer if he'd said everything he said after he'd simply defined jihad, but I don't think it was an embarassment.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
gmule wrote: Isn't the goal of all religions to be the one religion of the world?
Some try to achieve this by knocking on your door others blow stuff up. Either way religion is all about control of other people.
Well... that solves the problem. Let's just make some bigoted all inclusive statement about world religions. If you had a choice, I can bet you would welcome the knock on the door over the alternative.
That was hardly a bigoted statement. I would just assume that all religion disappear. More wars have been started and more people have been killed all in the name of religion. This version is no different.
You can hope/pray/wish that all religion just goes away, but you'll be wasting your life doing it. So you have to deal with the reality of one element of one massive religion wanting to kill all non-believers. Radical Islam is a cancer of the larger group and we need to stay concerned about how fast that cancer is spreading.
The fact that Obama can't say the words "radical Islam" when describing these terrorists or when explaining Jihad is a mistake imo. He completely skipped the definition of Jihad and went right to the standard praise of the religion as a whole. This will only be seen as more weakness and fear of offending these Islamic terrorists.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
