FredHayek wrote: Nothing socialized about it? You might want to check the definition of socialized.
Your definition....or Websters?
so·cial·izedso·cial·iz·ing
Definition of SOCIALIZE
transitive verb
1
: to make social; especially : to fit or train for a social environment
2
a : to constitute on a socialistic basis <socialize industry>
b : to adapt to social needs or uses
3
: to organize group participation in <socialize a recitation>
intransitive verb
: to participate actively in a social group
— so·cial·i·za·tion noun
— so·cial·iz·er noun
Single payer does not take over the health care providers, only how they are paid.
I'll take Webster over your definition.
It is neither socialized nor is it socialism, if that is what you meant
Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
#3 sounds a little like what the conservatives want......
"Conservative groups seeking information from the Environmental Protection Agency have been routinely hindered by fees normally waived for media and watchdog groups, while fees for more than 90 percent of requests from green groups were waived, according to requests reviewed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute.".............
archer wrote: I agree with that, unfortunately as long as there are enough Republicans in congress we will never get single payer health care (there is nothing "socialized" about it)
Then thank God we've got the republicans to stop a federal takeover of the health care industry. The free market might have it's problems, but they're nothing compared to the problems that arise when the dolts in the government try to 'fix' something by taking it over.
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FredHayek wrote: Nothing socialized about it? You might want to check the definition of socialized.
Your definition....or Websters?
so·cial·izedso·cial·iz·ing
Definition of SOCIALIZE
transitive verb
1
: to make social; especially : to fit or train for a social environment
2
a : to constitute on a socialistic basis <socialize industry>
b : to adapt to social needs or uses
3
: to organize group participation in <socialize a recitation>
intransitive verb
: to participate actively in a social group
— so·cial·i·za·tion noun
— so·cial·iz·er noun
Single payer does not take over the health care providers, only how they are paid.
I'll take Webster over your definition.
It is neither socialized nor is it socialism, if that is what you meant
Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
#3 sounds a little like what the conservatives want......
"Govermental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Requiring people to have healthcare and defining what constitutes healthcare coverage sounds like administering/distributing to me.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Update on EPA Favortism: Protected eagles killed by windpower murdered in the 100's were excused. Eagles killed by fossil fuels like oil spills? Fines.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
FredHayek wrote: OK. Haven't seen the stories about movie theatres and restaurants have cut hours so that they don't need to provide healthcare?
Face it, Obama botched this. He should have gone full socialized medicine that would free employers and workers from paying for health insurance direct.
Yes, that would have worked. Old people have a duty to die. Who wants to be first?
"UK to Keep New Medicines From the Elderly?
By Wesley J. Smith
January 10, 2014 12:57 AM
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The UK may soon tighten its health care rationing to prevent new medicines from getting to the elderly. From the Telegraph story:
New drugs would only be licensed for the NHS if they help those judged to be a benefit to wider society under proposals from the health watchdog. Pharmaceutical firms on Thursday night warned that the move could lead to new medicines being denied to the elderly."...
FredHayek wrote: OK. Haven't seen the stories about movie theatres and restaurants have cut hours so that they don't need to provide healthcare?
Face it, Obama botched this. He should have gone full socialized medicine that would free employers and workers from paying for health insurance direct.
I agree with that, unfortunately as long as there are enough Republicans in congress we will never get single payer health care (there is nothing "socialized" about it)
He could have gotten it on this bill. He had enough of Congress to do what he wanted without single republican vote.
