U.N. Arms Trade Treaty & Gun Registration

30 May 2013 20:41 #1 by Arlen
Obama is going to sign the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty on Monday, May 03, 2013. It lays the groundwork for an international gun registry and permits for ammunition purchases which will be overseen by the bureaucrats at the UN.

If the Senate ratifies this treaty it will supersede the U.S. Constitution. This is based upon the history of judgements of the U.S. Supreme Court.

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30 May 2013 20:59 #2 by PrintSmith
It's a good thing that regardless of what Obama adds his signature to is worthless without that ratification, which has no chance as long as there are more than 40 Republicans elected to serve in that legislative body.

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30 May 2013 22:27 #3 by LadyJazzer
God, still sucking down that 1992 "Agenda 21"/Glenn Beck/WorldNutDaily conspiracy Kool-Aid... :lol:

It's like Dracula...No matter how many times you put a stake through its heart, the demented tinfoil/black-helicopter folks still buy into it... :lol:

I got a bridge to sell you...

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31 May 2013 05:45 #4 by PrintSmith
Collectivists have been selling that demoncracy bridge to the Union piece by expensive piece over the course of the last century. Don't get what you want to begin with? Get a piece of it instead, and another piece a couple years later, and another piece a couple years after that. 10 years down the road, you have what you originally sought. Unless something is done very soon the bridge you've been erecting over the last hundred years to fundamentally transform the Union from the republic created by the founders to a centrally governed nation that is a republic in name only will be complete and I, for one, have no desire to see the progressive form of government we started with become the next Rome.

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31 May 2013 08:21 - 31 May 2013 08:32 #5 by Something the Dog Said
The right wing nuts are at it again, but hey it gives Printsmith yet another opportunity to use his tired pedantic phrases that have zero meaning. First, President Obama has not announced whether or not he will sign the treaty to stop irresponsible gun trading with countries that use such weapons for human rights violations. Second, this treaty does not require gun registration nor will it in the future. Third, the treaty can not supersede the Constitution as a matter of law. Fourth, even if the President does sign the treaty, it does not take effect unless the Senate passes it by 2/3rds majority which is impossible as they can not even decide whether to take a piss by such a majority.

But hey, the wing nuts have an opportunity to rant about meaningless crap yet again.

FYI, only three countries voted against this treaty. Iran, Syria and North Korea. Is that the company that the US should keep?

"Remember to always be yourself. Unless you can be batman. Then always be batman." Unknown

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31 May 2013 08:24 #6 by LadyJazzer

Something the Dog Said wrote: The right wing nuts are at it again, but hey it gives Printsmith yet another opportunity to use his tired pedantic phrases that have zero meaning. First, President Obama has not announced whether or not he will sign the treaty to stop irresponsible gun trading with countries that use such weapons for human rights violations. Second, this treaty does not require gun registration nor will it in the future. Third, the treaty can not supersede the Constitution as a matter of law. Fourth, even if the President does sign the treaty, it does not take effect unless the Senate passes it by 2/3rds majority which is impossible as they can not even decide whether to take a piss by such a majority.

But hey, the wing nuts have an opportunity to rant about meaningless crap yet again.


:thumbsup: :like: :yeahthat:

Watching the same clowns take the same bait over and over again has become a very entertaining spectator-sport, though, you have to admit... :biggrin:

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31 May 2013 10:19 #7 by FredHayek
Breitbart seems to think Obama will sign it, but no way Harry Reid can get the 2/3 votes in the Senate for the bill to actually pass.

So it is pretty much like when the House repeals Obamacare for the 27th time.
Although I would love to see which way Bennet and Udall voted.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Jun 2013 09:37 #8 by Arlen
There is a window between the time that Obama signs the treaty and the Senate votes to ratify or reject. This window will allow Obama to issue executive orders to establish gun registration and require permits for ammo purchase.

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02 Jun 2013 09:57 #9 by Something the Dog Said

Arlen wrote: There is a window between the time that Obama signs the treaty and the Senate votes to ratify or reject. This window will allow Obama to issue executive orders to establish gun registration and require permits for ammo purchase.

That "window" has existed for the last 5 1/2 years, yet the President has not done so, nor has he any intent to do so. You know, tin foil has many uses for recycling.

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02 Jun 2013 10:01 #10 by LadyJazzer
Yes, well we know the veracity of Breitbart... They're going to need a LOT more tin foil...

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