According to Obama, the IRS is an "Independent Agency"

Something the Dog Said wrote:
So this is yet another example of conservative lies. What can we learn from this latest "outrage"? That if it comes from a Republican source, it is most likely a lie.

Good to know you are fair and balanced!
Dog: if it comes out of a Republican mouth, it is a lie!
No one ever is just incorrect, or gets bad info, right?

That you use such "info" to create scandals, to smear the reputation of others, to create false "outrages", with no attempt at verifying the truth of the "info", yep that becomes a lie.

And since we have seen that Republicans have a reputation for lies, then it becomes pretty the status quo, a prima facie case that if it comes from Republicans it probably will be a lie.

Something the Dog Said wrote: That you use such "info" to create scandals, to smear the reputation of others, to create false "outrages", with no attempt at verifying the truth of the "info", yep that becomes a lie.

And since we have seen that Republicans have a reputation for lies, then it becomes pretty the status quo, a prima facie case that if it comes from Republicans it probably will be a lie.

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See you just can't reason with hyper-partisans like the Dog who only use very biased sources.

What "very biased sources" are you accusing me of using? You have yet to prove up a single fact to back up your allegations. Instead, you have been caught in lie after lie after lie.

Dog did not give a source for his claim, but it appears it's from this The Atlantic article...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/the-fake-story-about-the-irs-commissioner-and-the-white-house/276399/

Of course the article never says Shulman only visited the White House 11 times, it just states that they have 11 confirmations of him entering the White House. Strangely, there are only 6 confirmations of him leaving the White House, so we see this data isn't exactly accurate.

For most of the rest of the 157 White House events, the article says Shulman was cleared to attend. We don't at this point know how many of those he actually attended. Also, "White House" can also refer to other nearby buildings. One other thing to consider is that higher ups can also get White House access without even showing up on these lists.

So there are unanswered questions. Even if Shulman didn't attend any of the other meetings I wonder why his name has so many more clearances than anyone else? Who knows at this point?

A little more info, for what it's worth...

Of Shulman's meetings recorded in the visitor logs, 40 listed his "visitee" as Nancy Ann DeParle, who acted as the director of the White House Office of Health Reform until 2011, when she moved into the role of deputy chief of staff for policy. Fifty-four visit records list Sarah Fenn as Shulman's "visitee." Fenn is listed as a staff assistant in 2010 White House salary records. In 2011 she's described as "assistant counsel of ethics."

Five visits listed Obama as the "visitee."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/31/did-irs-chief-really-visit-white-house-157-times/

If true, interesting about those 54 "visits" (not that we know at this point how many happened) to a staff assistant and "assistant counsel of ethics".

And there were 40 other logs with a person who was involved with health reform until 2011, but later "moved into the role of deputy chief of staff for policy", whatever that is.

And five to Obama?

Look, Shulman needs to be questioned again to clear this stuff up. Until then, we'll just get "news" stories like this.

So the White House doesn't know who visited and when? More incompetence? My company which has much less security than the White House has every visitor sign in and out. Remember this is the same administration that let some DC wife and her husband crash a state dinner.

FredHayek wrote: See you just can't reason with hyper-partisans

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Top Internal Revenue Service Obamacare official Sarah Hall Ingram discussed confidential taxpayer information with senior Obama White House officials, according to 2012 emails obtained by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and provided to The Daily Caller.

Lois Lerner, then head of the IRS Tax Exempt Organizations division, also received an email alongside White House officials that contained confidential information.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/09/white ... z2hI0V5Vje

Funny how information continues to leak from this administration but the sheepeople aren't alarmed by what is happening in the here and now. They're content with the continuous bowl of US Gubment slop and a few bobbles that are handed out to the masses; ignore the truth, Barry and Harry will take good care of us all.