Did you know Uncle Ho was inspired by our Founders?

No kidding. After their chat last week, Obama regaled the press corp with the news that he and his Vietnamese counterpart had discussed how Ho Chi Minh, one of the most ruthless dictators in the modern era, was "actually inspired by the U.S. Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and the words of Thomas Jefferson."

That our president can't understand that a dictator who was responsible for the deaths of upwards of half a million of his fellow countrymen as he employed Stalin's tactics to consolidate power after ousting the French from Indochina couldn't possibly have received inspiriation from the writings of Thomas Jefferson is perhaps one of the reasons he himself is so hostile to our founding documents.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07 ... g-fathers/

and now.....the rest of the story,

"At the conclusion of the meeting, President Sang shared with me a copy of a letter sent by Ho Chi Minh to Harry Truman. And we discussed the fact that Ho Chi Minh was actually inspired by the U.S. Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and the words of Thomas Jefferson.”

That’s it. Nothing praising Ho Chi Minh at all. Just a simple recitation of unarguable facts. No one on Fox or the right-wing fruitcake brigade disputes that Ho Chi Minh revered the people and ideas that inspired the birth of the United States. He used the Declaration of Independence as the model for Vietnam’s quest for its own independence from France.

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=10226

I looked into it, and indeed Ho Chi Minh did use the declaration of independence as inspiration for Viet Nam's independence and he did admire Jefferson. So Obama tells the truth, and simply says that this is what was discussed by he and Sang.....horrors....Must be a slow news day for the right wing-nut press

And so now I want to hear from you how a man who said that all should govern themselves to the limit of their competency (Jefferson) could have been an inspiration for a man who had his thugs isolate a house so that the occupants starved to death (Uncle Ho).

This should prove interesting. :coffee-News:

That question you need to ask of Ho Chi Minh, he is the one who used our Declaration of Independence and claimed he was inspired by Jefferson. Don't shoot the messenger for repeating what someone else said. Nice try though at accusing me along with Obama of supporting uncle Ho..... I don't and I seriously doubt Obama does. If you posted that muslims thought they were doing god's work when they attacked the World Trade Center could we then infer that you agree with them? Or, should we rightly assume that you are simply stating what the muslims claim and we should not assume you agree with them.?

And that's the rub archer. I think that Obama is more inspired by Marx and Minh than Jefferson and Madison. I would find it consistent if Minh gained inspiration from the words and deeds of Hamilton and others who wanted to replace one tyrannical central government with another one of their own making, but not Jefferson. Jefferson espoused all that Obama despises, a federal government strictly limited to the specific powers delegated to it by the Constitution, not one with powers limited only by the imaginations of those who populate it.

It was interesting times after World War II and Ho Chi Minh actually held out hope America, who had fought for its colonial freedom from the British would help Indochina throw off the yoke of the French.

Instead, because of the Cold War, the US supported DeGaulle and the old ways. So Ho got support from others, the Chinese and Russian communists.
So while the Viet freedom fighter was inspired by our country, he eventually went to the people who gave him guns and money.
Imagine if America had played that the right way? Vietnam as a capitalist democracy to fend off China.

To say that Minh followed the style of Jefferson when he wrote his speech declaring Vietnam an independent State is one thing, and perhaps accurately stated. To say that Minh, a dedicated Marxist-Leninist for going on 20 years by the time WWII ended, was inspired by the words of Jefferson is something altogether different, and not in any way an accurate statement.

There could be no capitalist based democracy in Vietnam with Minh leading the government. Vihn was a studied Marxist-Leninist who employed Stalin's tactics of consolidating power. He didn't believe in private property rights, the landowners were some of the first to be exterminated by Minh and his followers who then surrounded the homes of those landowners and forced the women and children within them to die a slow death by starvation to effect elimination of the entire family. Such a man is not someone "inspired by the words of Thomas Jefferson" regardless of how many times the anti-war crowd from the 1960's attempts to paint him as some kind of a Vietnamese George Washington.

Minh threw around the words "democratic" and "republic" the way Sirota tosses "subsidy" across his pages, and with a similar tether to reality when the term was used. Ronald Radosh has a good op-ed piece published in the WSJ on the 27th for anyone interested in reading it.