WSJ: Why Detroit Failed?

29 Jul 2013 07:48 #1 by FredHayek
The mayor Coleman Young according to the article courted the black vote by discouraging the police from arresting black criminals. As crime rose, the people who could afford to move, the white and black middle class fled. So while Mayor Guiliani was cleaning up NYC and encouraging gentrification, Detroit was going the opposite way. And part of this was political. The poor, minority base were low information voters who didn't care about corruption and could be counted on to not vote for alternatives.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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29 Jul 2013 09:46 #2 by LadyJazzer
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Don’t buy the right-wing myth about Detroit
Conservatives want you to think high taxes drove people away. The real truth is much worse for their radical agenda
By David Sirota


Funny how the right-wing doesn't buy the WSJ figures on how many jobs were created by Bush in 8 years (8 million) vs Bill Clinton (23.1 million); but when it suits their purpose, they will gladly trumpet the WSJ myth about Detroit.

Sirota blows the whistle on the myth... But since when has GOTP ever had more than tangential passing relationship with the truth?

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29 Jul 2013 09:51 #3 by FredHayek
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David Sirota? Please. A very angry man who was fired as a radio show host in Denver because he was a danger to his coworkers.

Blaming it on NAFTA? Who passed that? Many big cities like Boston and New York lost manufacturing too, but in Boston's case, they traded low wage textiles for high wage information technology. New York traded manufacturing for finance. Detroit? They whined and spent money they didn't have. Sort of like Obama.

How did those shovel ready projects increase the number of Americans on food stamps Barack?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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29 Jul 2013 15:59 #4 by PrintSmith
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David Sirota considers not taxing income that was used to pay sales taxes as a tax subsidy. I don't even think that Sirota knows what the true definition of a subsidy is anymore given his continual misrepresentation of the word in an effort to define the debate using whatever he has decided a word should mean instead of what it actually does mean.

A hint for all of those who follow Sirota and hang on his every word. A tax credit is not a subsidy. A tax deduction is not a subsidy. A subsidy is when the controlling entity actually writes out a check from tax revenues and hands it to the recipient. Failure to tax is not now, nor has it ever been, a tax subsidy.

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29 Jul 2013 18:03 #5 by Blazer Bob
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It is this guys fault.

"The last Republican Mayor of Detroit, MI was Louis C. Miriani. He was served from September 12, 1957 to January 2, 1962. He was Detroit's 63rd mayor."

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29 Jul 2013 18:17 #6 by archer
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Ahhhhh....but two of the last 3 governors of Michigan have been Republican.....who has more power?

But, I think it's more economics than politics that has done in the city of Detroit. It's convenient to blame it on unions.....and pensions (however the numbers for the pensions don't support that excuse), or Democratic Mayors, or whatever the liberal blame de jour is.....but the economics of the last several decades has brought down what was once the shining star of American industry.......now those jobs are in China, or India......America has turned it's back on the city that played a huge role in making us the great nation we are today......I find it all incredibly sad.

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29 Jul 2013 19:27 #7 by Blazer Bob
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archer wrote: Ahhhhh....but two of the last 3 governors of Michigan have been Republican.....who has more power?

But, I think it's more economics than politics that has done in the city of Detroit. It's convenient to blame it on unions.....and pensions (however the numbers for the pensions don't support that excuse), or Democratic Mayors, or whatever the liberal blame de jour is.....but the economics of the last several decades has brought down what was once the shining star of American industry.......now those jobs are in China, or India......America has turned it's back on the city that played a huge role in making us the great nation we are today......I find it all incredibly sad.


Seriously? Two of the last three Presidents have been democrats...who has more power? Is it Clintons and Obamas fault that Detroit is a third world city? The answer is no.

Detroit fat cats sucked the city dry and left the kids to die. It just so happens that the fat cats in Detroit come with a d.

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29 Jul 2013 20:41 #8 by archer
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Blazer Bob wrote: [ It just so happens that the fat cats in Detroit come with a d.


Of course they do.....all the fat cats with an r fled the city to Grosse Pointe and left the city to die.

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29 Jul 2013 20:52 #9 by Blazer Bob
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archer wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: [ It just so happens that the fat cats in Detroit come with a d.


Of course they do.....all the fat cats with an r fled the city to Grosse Pointe and left the city to die.


that's one way to look at it.

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30 Jul 2013 08:51 #10 by Rick
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Maybe Detroit went bankrupt because of wise decision like this:
New $444 million hockey arena is still a go in Detroit
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/26/news/ec ... index.html

Who thinks this will be the best way to spend money Detroit doesn't have? I'm sure there's a Republican somewhere pulling the strings and forcing this move...

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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