Bloomberg Tries To Buy/Influence Colorado Recalls.

28 Aug 2013 12:53 #11 by FredHayek
Just the breaks of conservatives being upset with the GOP right now in Colorado.
A protest vote with the Libertarians elected anti-freedom Dems like Giron and Morse.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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28 Aug 2013 13:16 #12 by Grady
As if Project New America would produce a valid unbiased poll.

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28 Aug 2013 13:32 #13 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: How much did RMGO and the other pro-gun organizations, and other dark money organizations, put in besides the NRA?

Looks to me like Sen. Morse voted the wishes of the MAJORITY of voters in his district. The 8% of gun wackos that want to do a recall are free to do so...But they are NOT "the majority."

The same poll also asked Colorado voters about specific gun law proposals[/url] and the margin of support was wide for nearly all the measures in question, according to PNA/Chris Keating:

95 percent of voters agree that people with "serious mental health problems" should be prevented from owning a gun.
80 percent of voters agree that judges should be able to order someone who is "convicted of domestic violence or given a restraining order" to surrender their guns to the court.
80 percent of voters agree that all private gun sales should go through a licensed dealer and be subject to a background check.
65 percent of voters agree that guns should be banned on college and university campuses.
61 percent of voters agree that the sale and possession of semi-automatic guns and assault rifles should be banned.
61 percent of voters agree that the sale and possession of high-capacity ammunition clips, which allow some guns to shoot more than 10 bullets before reloading, should be banned.



Sux, don't it? I truly don't give a flip what 8% of the wackos want. I should send a note to Bloomberg thanking him for his support.


If 95% of people want people with mental health problems prevented from owning a gun why did the elected Dem governor Hickenlooper table that bill?
Sometimes you don't get who you elected, right?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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28 Aug 2013 21:06 #14 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: Sometimes you don't get who you elected, right?


See: Bush v. Gore....

Yep, you're right.

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28 Aug 2013 21:38 #15 by gmule

LadyJazzer wrote: How much did RMGO and the other pro-gun organizations, and other dark money organizations, put in besides the NRA?

Looks to me like Sen. Morse voted the wishes of the MAJORITY of voters in his district. The 8% of gun wackos that want to do a recall are free to do so...But they are NOT "the majority."

The same poll also asked Colorado voters about specific gun law proposals[/url] and the margin of support was wide for nearly all the measures in question, according to PNA/Chris Keating:

95 percent of voters agree that people with "serious mental health problems" should be prevented from owning a gun.
80 percent of voters agree that judges should be able to order someone who is "convicted of domestic violence or given a restraining order" to surrender their guns to the court.
80 percent of voters agree that all private gun sales should go through a licensed dealer and be subject to a background check.
65 percent of voters agree that guns should be banned on college and university campuses.
61 percent of voters agree that the sale and possession of semi-automatic guns and assault rifles should be banned.
61 percent of voters agree that the sale and possession of high-capacity ammunition clips, which allow some guns to shoot more than 10 bullets before reloading, should be banned.



Sux, don't it? I truly don't give a flip what 8% of the wackos want. I should send a note to Bloomberg thanking him for his support.


Spending on one side of an issue is one thing. Spending by the mayor of a city in another state to influence who is in the legislature of another state is something very different IMO. Maybe you don't see the difference. Many others do.

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28 Aug 2013 22:09 #16 by LadyJazzer
Contributing to a 527 group is NOT "directly to a candidate"...But you already knew that...

If he wants to spend $350,000 to defeat the recall wackos through a 527, he can spend it where he wants... He wasn't spending it "as the mayor"...He's spending it as the head of a group that is promoting gun-control laws. But do continue with your mischaracterization.

Dang... Don't you hate it when somebody other than a teabagger uses the same rules to beat you? :biggrin:

Yeah, kind of like Crossroads/GPS, and the Club For Growth, and the NRA, and RMGO association, and the Heritage Action Group, and....speaking of wimps with money that think they own everyone, there's Donald Trump, the Koch Brothers, Rupert Murdoch, Phil Anschutz, Steve Schwarzman, Amway's Rich DeVos, Citadel's Ken Griffin, Ken Langone, B. Wayne Hughes, Texas investor Harold Simmons, TV mogul Jerry Perenchio and oil heir Robert Rowling cooking the books under the table for the right-wing.

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29 Aug 2013 07:33 #17 by gmule
I am against all outside contributions intended to influence our state legislature.
The real hypocrisy is coming from Morse himself when he was complaining about outside influences in Colorado elections.

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05 Sep 2013 15:55 #18 by LadyJazzer
Gee, here's an update:

NRA Donates More Than $350,000 To Colorado Recall Effort Of Democrats Who Supported Gun Laws

Two Colorado state senators facing a historic recall election next week are now also going against a ramped up financial contribution from the National Rifle Association.

A campaign finance report released Tuesday shows the NRA has increased their support of the recall efforts of Senate President John Morse of Colorado Springs and state Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo by an additional $250,000. The Fairfax, Va.-based gun rights group had already spent more than $100,000 in an effort to defeat the lawmakers bringing the NRA's total contribution to over $361,700.

"It was a grassroots effort for a little while, but when that didn't take at all, it was clear they were getting money from outside. And I wasn't the least bit surprised the NRA was behind it," Senate President Morse told CNN shortly after the legislative session ended.


Looks like the early counts aren't going the NRA's way...

Democrats are out-voting Republicans in the recall election of state Sen. Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, by nearly a 3-to-1 margin, according to voter tallies after the first three days of early voting.

Pueblo County Clerk Gilbert “Bo” Ortiz said that 2,690 voters had cast ballots in the Sept. 10 special election as of 3 p.m. Tuesday.

At that time, 1,668 Democrats had voted in the special election compared with 599 Republicans. The remaining 423 votes came from independents and minor party voters


Welllllll, when you can't win by cheating, or win by rigging and supressing the votes, or screaming about "outside money", when your own organization is putting in over $360,000 FROM THE OUTSIDE, there's only one thing left to do---Hold your breath and turn blue, AND, put a measure on the ballot to secede and form another state.

:rofllol lol

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