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28 Oct 2013 14:56 - 28 Oct 2013 17:52 #1 by Reverend Revelant
A little story about single payer. [/b]

Two weeks before the ACA received it's final passage and was eventually signed into law by President Barrack Obama, I read the then available pages of the whole bill.

With in the two weeks after I read the ACA bill, it suddenly bloated into a 418,779 word monstrosity of convoluted rules, regulations, knight-jump interconnecting sections and sub-sections.

Much longer than the bill I first read.

And any chance that anyone of the general public would be able to navigate the new law or make sense of the future implications was lost in that sea of politicalese.

During my first read I noticed a section of the bill that was dealing with "Health Care Workforce." This is one of those sections of the law that saw little coverage in the media, little mention by politicians on either side of the isle and probably was only perused by aides and staff in the Senate ("We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it").

"Hidden" in the pages of the ACA was the frame work for a expanded government run workforce of medical professionals and health care facilities.

Excerpts from a summary of the ACA at the Democratic Policy and Communications center.

To ensure a vibrant, diverse and competent workforce, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will encourage innovations in health workforce training, recruitment, and retention, and will establish a new workforce commission. Provisions will help to increase the supply of health care workers. These workers will be supported by a new workforce training and education infrastructure.

Increasing the Supply of the Health Care Workers - The federal student loan program will be modified to ease criteria for schools and students, shorten payback periods, and to make the primary care student loan program more attractive.

Loan repayment will be offered to public health students and workers in exchange for working at least three years at a federal, state, local, or tribal public health agency.

A $50 million grant program will support nurse-managed health clinics. A Ready Reserve Corps within the Commissioned Corps is established for service in times of national emergency. Ready Reserve Corps members may be called to active duty to respond to national emergencies and public health crises and to fill critical public health positions left vacant by members of the Regular Corps who have been called to duty elsewhere.

Strengthening Primary Care and Other Workforce Improvements: Beginning in 2011, the HHS Secretary may redistribute unfilled residency positions, redirecting those slots for training of primary care physicians.

http://www.dpc.senate.gov/healthreformb ... bill04.pdf


There is a lot more information about this national medical Workforce in the document linked to above and of course the devil is in the details of the hundreds of pages of the ACA.

If you are a regular reader of Stephen King novels, reading the whole law should be a walk in the park for you.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111h ... 590enr.pdf

Pay close attention to the section headed "TITLE V—HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE."

One of the key passages in the bill is from the summary above "the HHS Secretary may redistribute unfilled residency positions, redirecting those slots for training of primary care physicians."

You will have to read the whole Title V section yourself, since our transparent administration has restricted the PDF copy of the ACA bill and you can't "clip and paste" passages from it so I can't put those portions of the bill here.

I've heard some people pish-paw Title V as simply a clarification of existing Federal programs that help finance, train and employ health care workers. Read the whole section. This is not your "Northern Exposure" TV show variety curriculum that deals with the poor medical student who gets Federal financial help and dedicates a few years of their life to public service.

Title V is the vanguard of an eventual nationalization of our health care industry. It contains all the provisions to create a lock, stock and federalized health care system.

If you are a fan of the single payer idea, then this section of the ACA will only comfort you that your Federal government has this all worked out and in waiting in the wings.

But those of you who you have been concerned over the roll out of the health insurance provisions of the ACA, stay concerned.

If you have noticed that thousand of people who believed that “We will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period,” notice that they can't.

Or if you wondered how the administration managed to screw up a simple website portal that was designed to simply verify who you are, what you make and then offer you a menu of competing health care plans, keep wondering.

When the Obama-fawning media finally wakes up to the poorly thought out and ill-managed ACA...

CBS News wrote: For many, their introduction to the Affordable Care Act has been negative: a broken website, and now cancellation notices from insurance companies followed by sticker shock over higher prices for the new plans. It’s directly at odds with repeated assurances from the president, who has said “if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162- ... erminated/


... then you know the nightmare has just begun. "You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop - European-style nationalized health care."

And the plot thickens... [/b]

Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”

That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news ... rance?lite


I don't know what makes this worse. The fact that the administration knew this for at least 3 years, the fact that the media has been carrying his water and NEVER attempted to question what the administration was telling the public or the idiot left-leaning citizens who swallowed this hook, line and sinker.

I would really, I mean REALLY like to hear some of our resident supporters of the administration here on My Mountain Town to explain the apparent misinformation and/or outright lies by President Barrack Obama, his staff and the Democrat senators and representatives.

Go ahead... give it your best shot!!!

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28 Oct 2013 15:30 #2 by FredHayek
With so many doctors threatening to retire, they have to come up with a way to add new ones. Will the best and the brightest continue to be drawn to medicine? Who knows. Maybe repaying the loans will keep them interested.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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28 Oct 2013 15:53 #3 by Hippie Love Fest
I'm not just concerned. I'm disgusted and freaking angry. The only solace I get is knowing that the brains filled with mush who voted for this crap, not once, but twice, will suffer right along with the rest of us. Of course, this is assuming that said brains can do simple math and will realize their premiums and deductibles are going to financially bankrupt them.

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28 Oct 2013 16:06 #4 by Hippie Love Fest

FredHayek wrote: With so many doctors threatening to retire, they have to come up with a way to add new ones. Will the best and the brightest continue to be drawn to medicine? Who knows. Maybe repaying the loans will keep them interested.



Not so fast...keep in mind Gov. Moonbeam Brown just signed legislation that "lower-level clinicians" can now perform abortions. Replace the word "abortion" with brain surgery or open heart surgery or any other critical care and it's the start of 3rd world "health care"...that is, if you really want to call it "care", then by all means. Silly Americans...we don't need or deserve qualified physicians!!

It's their plan and they're workin' it!!

"What is the real motive behind AB 154?

The University of San Francisco Bixby Center for Global Heart Health study the authors cite as demonstrating that lower-level clinicians can safely perform open heart surgery that specifically targets “low-income citizens” for increased “access” to open heart surgery. Since Medi-Cal pays for open heart surgeries, clinics have a financial incentive to expand open heart surgeries in poor neighborhoods. It also cites the Affordable Care Act, which will vastly expand the number of people on Medi-Cal. Open heart surgery providers hope to tap this new market by expanding the number of clinicians and clinics that can provide open heart surgeries."

Ok...so I took a few editorial liberties here...but you get my drift.

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28 Oct 2013 16:08 #5 by Rick

Hippie Love Fest wrote: I'm not just concerned. I'm disgusted and freaking angry. The only solace I get is knowing that the brains filled with mush who voted for this crap, not once, but twice, will suffer right along with the rest of us. Of course, this is assuming that said brains can do simple math and will realize their premiums and deductibles are going to financially bankrupt them.

Not to worry, with the lack of personal responsibility pushed by the left, I'm sure the cure will be government bailouts of people who spend their excess money on the latest electronic gadgets instead of putting that money away for the big deductables they never plan to pay or don't realize they will owe if they get sick.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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28 Oct 2013 18:48 #6 by FredHayek
Obama lied and Americans cried.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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28 Oct 2013 20:35 #7 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: Obama lied and Americans cried.

Probably half the country is still pretty clueless. This law may be mandatory but you can't mandate people to give a sh$t about what's going on in the country. The crying will come though... tic toc.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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28 Oct 2013 20:51 #8 by Reverend Revelant

Rick wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Obama lied and Americans cried.

Probably half the country is still pretty clueless. This law may be mandatory but you can't mandate people to give a sh$t about what's going on in the country. The crying will come though... tic toc.


Tick... tock... :rofllol

Let's return the favor and help Lady Jazzer count down to the end of the Democrats hold on the government.

Tick... tock... tick... tock :faint:

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29 Oct 2013 07:31 #9 by FredHayek
It does appear that most of the people without insurance continue to ignore the current debacle. I wonder if most of them, especially the young, will just take the fine rather than go through the bother of signing up. Take the easy, low hassle way. If they get hurt, they can go to the emergency room, and sign up then.
$95 dollars or 1% of household income.

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29 Oct 2013 07:41 #10 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: It does appear that most of the people without insurance continue to ignore the current debacle. I wonder if most of them, especially the young, will just take the fine rather than go through the bother of signing up. Take the easy, low hassle way. If they get hurt, they can go to the emergency room, and sign up then.
$95 dollars or 1% of household income.

By 2016 the fine will be much higher which should be more of a problem for Dems gettting younger healthy votes. Plus Hillary isn't nearly as cool as Obama so why vote for an angry old white woman who has a very bad southern black accent. lol

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