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LadyJazzer wrote: What happens next is that the tantrum-throwing faction will continue to complain because they lost the elections and are not getting their way...(Which is what elections are all about.) And they will be relegated to the dustbin of history, as they should be.

I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

Looks like the Republicans won in Colorado last night, voting down a billion dollar school tax that Gov. Hickenlooper and the Democratic teachers' union supported.
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And in Virginia? The Dem candidate didn't even get 50% of the vote. And totally outspent Cuccinelli. Can you say buy an election? And even buy a fake Libertarian candidate to split the vote.

No that is where recalls come in.

Even though you want to see it as a race issue, it is an incompetence issue - doesn't matter what color he be.

LadyJazzer wrote: What happens next is that the tantrum-throwing faction will continue to complain because they lost the elections and are not getting their way...(Which is what elections are all about.) And they will be relegated to the dustbin of history, as they should be.

I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

WindPeak wrote: No that is where recalls come in.

Even though you want to see it as a race issue, it is an incompetence issue - doesn't matter what color he be.

LadyJazzer wrote: What happens next is that the tantrum-throwing faction will continue to complain because they lost the elections and are not getting their way...(Which is what elections are all about.) And they will be relegated to the dustbin of history, as they should be.

I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

LJ sees everything through a racist lense.

FredHayek wrote: Looks like the Republicans won in Colorado last night, voting down a billion dollar school tax that Gov. Hickenlooper and the Democratic teachers' union supported.

What a crock... That wasn't a "Dems vs. Reps" vote...That was a vote about a bad solution to a problem that required too much money. *I* voted against Prop-66, and I'll slap the first twit that calls me a "Republican."

Nice try, but that dog won't hunt.

Oh, and for the record, over 50% of the voters in VA in exit polls said they weren't voting FOR McAuliffe...They were voting AGAINST the extremist, Cuccinelli, and the teabaggers... You lost ALL THREE elections in VA: Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General. VA citizens are already celebrating because they know that at the very least, the decision of the outgoing executives to deny MedicAid to its citizens is going to be overturned....

Voting down increased taxes, voting for school board representatives that don't support the union, supporting charter schools and voucher systems? Why, that sounds like a Republican to me.

But not always, Obama used to support vouchers for students before he ran for POTUS.

One doesn't have to be stupid enough to be a "Republican" to vote against a bad financing bill...

And YOU don't get to define me. :bash

tongue: Nope, you define yourself, as the 180 degree opposite of the TEA Party.
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LadyJazzer wrote: What happens next is that the tantrum-throwing faction will continue to complain because they lost the elections and are not getting their way...(Which is what elections are all about.) And they will be relegated to the dustbin of history, as they should be.

I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

Shows how much your narrow view of the world allows you to see, doesn't it. The Weld County Commissioners will accept the voice of the people (something that the lawmakers in the General Assembly of Colorado seem to have forgotten about) and drop the issue.

In 5 of the counties, 5 counties which form an unbroken border mind you, the measure was approved, which means that in those 5 counties the majority of the people no longer wish to be governed by the current State government and would prefer to form a new State of their own. Consent of the governed is essential to our system of government, isn't it? Perhaps these words no longer have any meaning to you?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Isn't this precisely what the people in those 5 counties are attempting to do? Replace a government that they view as destructive of their liberty and instituting a new one which is more likely to effect their safety and happiness?

I believe that the 5 counties that wish to form their own State should be given the opportunity to do so if that is what they truly desire. I believe that their local representatives have an obligation to pursue the matter in light of the vote in those 5 counties, both the representatives of the local government and the representatives they have elected to the General Assembly. I also think that the General Assembly should hear their petition and seriously consider granting their request so that they may make their case to the Congress of the United States.

Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution allows for a State to be split into more than one State with the consent of the State legislature and the consent of Congress. It has been done before in the case of Virginia and West Virginia (allowed because West Virginia declared itself the rightful government of the whole of Virginia and then voted to allow itself to secede from the rest of Virginia), though that separation is viewed by many as an ignoring of the Constitution in favor of political expediency, not a rare occurrence by any means during that stretch of the Union's history. Maine was once part of Massachusetts as well.

Nearly every State in the Union has, at one time or another, had a portion of its citizens start a movement to remove themselves from the current State to form a new one. This request is nothing new, nothing unheard of, by anyone who is in any way familiar with the Union's history.

At the very least these 5 counties deserve to have a vote on the measure in the next session of the General Assembly as a result of the vote yesterday.

LadyJazzer wrote: I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

What on earth does that have to do with some counties wanting to form a 51st state??

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LadyJazzer wrote: I guess they still can't get over the fact that there's a BLACK MAN in their WHITE HOUSE. Imagine my surprise.

What on earth does that have to do with some counties wanting to form a 51st state??

Exactly, when the Left knows they are losing an argument, they have to drag out the race card. The successful recalls and seccesion requests have been against old white Democrats like John Morse and John Hickenlooper.