The President's ObamaCare Backpedal

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 3229925250

"Succumbing to the growing panic over his health law, the president on Thursday moved to throw his party a political lifeline. As rescue apparatuses go, it is likely to do more harm than good.

Mr. Obama took to the podium in the White House briefing room to explain that yes, some Americans may indeed now keep the health-care plans they like. Maybe. If insurers can undo three years of work in a few weeks. If state regulators can move at similar lightning speed. So long as the old plans come with new warning labels. And with the understanding that those Americans lucky enough to receive a renewal option can only keep the plans they "like" for a further year. Those giant caveats aside, the president wishes you good fortune.

This small turnabout was nonetheless a humiliating concession for Mr. Obama, whose press secretary, Jay Carney, only a few days ago was ripping the idea of allowing insurers to continue selling "substandard" plans. His hand was forced by a growing mob of congressional Democrats who are getting slammed over cancellations, and who threatened revolt if the administration didn't act.

The primary purpose of the White House "fix" was to get out ahead of the planned Friday vote on Michigan Republican Fred Upton's "Keep Your Health Plan Act." The stage was set for dozens of Democrats to join with the GOP for passage—potentially creating a veto-proof majority, and putting enormous pressure on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to follow suit."...

WHAT THE FUCK.

This cannot be allowed.

If this was such a big issue, dozens and dozens of posts here, 1000s of articles, millions of people repositioning, changing their lives, loosing sleep, worrying about paying their bills, eating, changing their companies, jobs, lives, plans, possessions....

If this man can get up on a podium and change all of this with a speech, change a law that was passed, that everyone freaked out about, then.....

he is your DICTATOR AND YOU ACCEPT IT.

NO, NO, NO. We have laws and systems and they don't involve the president changing one of the biggest laws to hit the nation in 50 years with a comment.

Good luck. Because you have a dictator and even worse, you wont stop it because at this time, the dictator is giving you what you want. If I had to say so, this is the perfect way to get you to accept that the president is taking more power in a time when you resented him more than ever.

This guy is smart, but I don't think this is legal or moral, even more immoral than passing this crazy law to begin with.

Plans should absolutely stay cancelled for the good of the country and for the good of the people's voice.

BAD BAD BAD.

on that note wrote: WHAT THE f***.

This cannot be allowed.

If this was such a big issue, dozens and dozens of posts here, 1000s of articles, millions of people repositioning, changing their lives, loosing sleep, worrying about paying their bills, eating, changing their companies, jobs, lives, plans, possessions....

If this man can get up on a podium and change all of this with a speech, change a law that was passed, that everyone freaked out about, then.....

he is your DICTATOR AND YOU ACCEPT IT.

NO, NO, NO. We have laws and systems and they don't involve the president changing one of the biggest laws to hit the nation in 50 years with a comment.

Good luck. Because you have a dictator and even worse, you wont stop it because at this time, the dictator is giving you what you want. If I had to say so, this is the perfect way to get you to accept that the president is taking more power in a time when you resented him more than ever.

This guy is smart, but I don't think this is legal or moral, even more immoral than passing this crazy law to begin with.

Plans should absolutely stay cancelled for the good of the country and for the good of the people's voice.

BAD BAD BAD.

100% agree. And if he can do this now like deciding which club to use from his golf bag, what's to say he won't change other parts of the law like the maximum mandate/tax the government can charge when not enough people sign up. If this president sets this insane precident, the next should be able to do the same including killing the law because it doesn't work. I can't imagine liberals being cool with this, even if it saves a few Dem asses in the short run.

People who keep their old plans should still be fined, because they bought something that is no longer defined as health insurance.

The truth is that they could have kept selling folks these plans, they simply would not have qualified and they could have done so before the speech.

The people that buy back into the plans that do not comply with the law should be able to use those plans as they have agreed, but should not be allowed an exception to the rule and should still be fined for breaking the law and not carrying acceptable insurance.

Keep in mind that by doing it this way, the govt has caused the insurers to have whiplash, keep changing plans, adjusting business, this is going to add to the cost of all plans as the govt forced these companies to waste a lot of time. We also still have to pay for all past and future iterations of the websites, the navigators, which sound like they outnumber the people that signed up.

Just remember as this mess continues and the govt jerks us all around trying to get us to accept this big money grab, they are going to have to grab even more money to make up for the endless mistakes rolling out this highly failed and immoral plan.

Where's LJ and Archer and Big Poop telling us this was all part of the plan and how good this all is for everyone?

Just for the amount of time I have spent on this and my employees and family. We have already put of pay increases because of the uncertainty of this law. I know I am not the only one. As long as thing are unsettled and uncertain, the average work a day, week, hourly salary employee type is going to see some stagnation (obviously someone needs to finance all this hoopla) and since all govt and businesses pass these costs down in both higher prices and lower wages......this is exactly what most people are going to get from all this fish flopping. My guess is that most people reading this are hourly, salary, retired type folks that will see their wealth go down faster because of this.

I am just glad I have the rest of you to pass these costs onto or I may be forced to suffer too.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... l/3536321/

"Chaos ensues after insurance cancellation reversal"

"President Obama's announcement Thursday that consumers can keep insurance plans that don't meet the Affordable Care Act for a year will only create chaos, insurance brokers, regulators and carriers say."

Is that more chaos that starting the law in the first place.

All the chaos means $ you will have to spend to finance it. All the people running around in circles both making this mess and trying to fix it have to be paid....by us.

Anyone who was not high on ObamaCrack knew this chaos was coming. Why is ObamaCrack still legal?

I am also curious, did the president say that insurers can keep selling the plans or did he say that they can keep selling the plans AND people would not get fined.

Perhaps there is no issues here, if the fines are still in place. The most important part.

I could care less if companies sell items that are not govt qualified, as long as the people breaking the law, the consumers who don't buy the correct plans are still punished for breaking the law.

I think he said they could re-new existing plans only for 2014, no selling new "substandard" plans to new customers.

As for the penalty, nobody knows since the IRS has not issued 2014 tax forms yet which will no doubt include a long form to document what qualified insurance is.

So no-one even knew before this speech whether there was going to be a fine and this speech did not address the fine.

Then the speech really had no content.

Companies and people can still insure whatever they wanted, the law just defined what the citizens would have to buy to not get fined.

Unless something was passed to say that the fine has been delayed, the people that stay with their old low quality plans, even if they scream their dictator told them they could, would still be subject to a fine. I really hope they make those folks pay the fine according to law, so that we live in a nations of laws and expectations.

Since the fine was decided to be the moral price to pay for making bad purchasing decisions, someone like me, who has made the legally required moral decision can not be made to finance the stuff the fine for all the bad people was supposed to finance. If the don't fine the bad guys, we all have to pay for their govt recognized negligence and that would not be right.

Keep the fine for the lawbreakers!

on that note wrote: So no-one even knew before this speech whether there was going to be a fine and this speech did not address the fine.

Then the speech really had no content.

You're right it didn't... just words meant to stop some bleeding and move our eyes to a better shiny object.

I'd just like to know if someone is advising him or if these words that come out of his mouth are all his. Not that it matters all that much, I just thought he was an expert at knowing the Constitution.