Democrats are preparing for more bad news.

02 Dec 2013 09:18 #1 by Blazer Bob
QUICK, bury your head in the sand.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... s_for.html

"On Saturday, President Obama’s new Web startup—healthcare.gov—is supposed to work better. How much better is a little hard to pin down. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius says, "We are definitely on track to have a significantly different user experience by the end of this month." Considering the initial experience was a near total collapse, Sebelius is doing an excellent job at keeping expectations in the bargain basement. It is practically impossible for the site to fail at offering a "different user experience,” so her guarantee is perhaps the weakest promise one could make. "...

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02 Dec 2013 09:26 #2 by The Boss
I did get new and different error messages.....

To debate the performance of the site is below the actual issue, that of respecting the individual.

Despite that, I do kinda like that there were all these fancy pants a few months ago that thought this site was just for poor people (unlike them), because they were all set, this new law was put in place to help "other people". Now that they are realizing that they are the other people by law and that many are getting their options taken away from them because they voted to have less options...people that just a month or two ago that thought this site was a welfare tool, are realizing that they either need to use it or need to get more educated than they have ever been on health insurance and that now less will cost more. I hope that people that voted for this president and his benchmark law are banging their keyboards in frustration right now realizing what they have done to themselves (and not just everyone else).

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02 Dec 2013 09:44 #3 by FredHayek
It dosn't matter if it works or not, ACA will continue to be the law of the land. Even if the GOP takes the Senate back.
SNAFU combined with BOHICA and DILLIGAF.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Dec 2013 19:02 #4 by otisptoadwater

FredHayek wrote: It dosn't matter if it works or not, ACA will continue to be the law of the land. Even if the GOP takes the Senate back. SNAFU combined with BOHICA and DILLIGAF.


OR - could it be a smaller part of forcing a single payer system on to the entire nation? Why attempt to implement a slightly Socialist health care system in place when the real goal is to install a full fledged Socialist health care system.

:sarcasm: Wouldn't it be great if everyone* had sub-par health care provided by the Gubment? Imagine, if you had a medical problem and you could just go stand (or lay or sit) in line at your local Gubment health care center. No more making appointments or having to juggle your personal schedule, just tell the boss and your family you're in the cue at the Gubment health care center. Just to keep everything fair the Gubment health care center would operate on a first in first out principle, so if you are bleeding out from a severed limb or having a heart attack make sure you get there quickly.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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03 Dec 2013 03:11 #5 by MamaRama
Don't forget, "bring something to read"... :biggrin:

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03 Dec 2013 06:37 #6 by homeagain

on that note wrote: I did get new and different error messages.....

To debate the performance of the site is below the actual issue, that of respecting the individual.

Despite that, I do kinda like that there were all these fancy pants a few months ago that thought this site was just for poor people (unlike them), because they were all set, this new law was put in place to help "other people". Now that they are realizing that they are the other people by law and that many are getting their options taken away from them because they voted to have less options...people that just a month or two ago that thought this site was a welfare tool, are realizing that they either need to use it or need to get more educated than they have ever been on health insurance and that now less will cost more. I hope that people that voted for this president and his benchmark law are banging their keyboards in frustration right now realizing what they have done to themselves (and not just everyone else).


JMO....the BOLDED is the key factor....respecting the individual....HOWEVER, the form it
would take would look like.....doctors /patients who practice FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE.....
(google those two words).....at it's basic level,it means FIRST DO NO HARM, look for the
root cause, work the problem WITHOUT drugs/surgery (utilizing as a LAST resort,instead of
first)......my KP doctor will be entering into this field of medicine/practice at the end of next
year......the patient MUST take responsibility for their health choices,their life habits play
an integrate part of the equation......the healthcare delivery crisis we (collectively) find our
selves mired in is the end result of life-style choices. (yes, I know that some health factors
are hereditary/genetic and are unavoidable.) The basic fact is Americans would rather find
the quick fix(drugs) than ACTUALLY understand the ramifications of NOT respecting the body.

of course, JMO

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