Self Driving Cars: Will It Completely Change The World?

16 Dec 2013 07:41 #1 by FredHayek
Catching up on my reading, the Economist had an article this summer about how they think self driving cars may change the world. Here are some of their ideas if government actually lets cars drive unlicensed people.
1) Seniors could keep their mobility. I have an uncle who is still mentally very with it but his poor vision has taken away his driver's license. Now he could just tell his car his destination and be driven there.
2) End of school busses? Just send the kids to school with an electric car and re-send it to pick them up at 3PM.
3) No more drunk driving? Just have your beers and get in the back seat, let the car bring you home.
4) Taxi's? Just order one over the phone.

Or do you think people and government would be unwilling to let cars operate without licensed, alert drivers? I hope this doesn't happen. It would be nice to grab a nap on my commute to work. Or a cross country trip, go in the back, make a sandwich.

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16 Dec 2013 08:13 #2 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: Catching up on my reading, the Economist had an article this summer about how they think self driving cars may change the world. Here are some of their ideas if government actually lets cars drive unlicensed people.
1) Seniors could keep their mobility. I have an uncle who is still mentally very with it but his poor vision has taken away his driver's license. Now he could just tell his car his destination and be driven there.
2) End of school busses? Just send the kids to school with an electric car and re-send it to pick them up at 3PM.
3) No more drunk driving? Just have your beers and get in the back seat, let the car bring you home.
4) Taxi's? Just order one over the phone.

Or do you think people and government would be unwilling to let cars operate without licensed, alert drivers? I hope this doesn't happen. It would be nice to grab a nap on my commute to work. Or a cross country trip, go in the back, make a sandwich.


Being a mechanic, I've yet to ever see or hear about a mechanical device that doesn't wear out in some way or eventually malfunction. You would need that 100% certainty because otherwise, who is held accountable if an automated car was to malfunction and hurt someone or cause some sort of damage to property? Who would the lawyers sue, the cars?

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16 Dec 2013 08:17 #3 by FredHayek
Don't some rail systems like Vegas's work without human operators? I know there is much less to go wrong with a train than a car, but you could be right, our current liability system might require a human operator to at least monitor the auto-driver. Based on an article I read about pilots losing skills, it appears that most of them have been reduced to an emergency switch on passenger and freight flights.

Freight deliveries might be very different too. Robot trucks pulling into loading docks.

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16 Dec 2013 10:12 #4 by BaconLover
Merging.... Computers HAVE to be better at merging than people...

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16 Dec 2013 10:23 #5 by FredHayek

ExtremeModerate wrote: Merging.... Computers HAVE to be better at merging than people...

:like: I believe the accident rate would go way down after the first year.

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16 Dec 2013 11:09 #6 by ScienceChic
I think too many people aren't willing to give up the drivers seat (I personally love to drive, but there are times when I need to get more done that the time spent in the car working would be invaluable). I do think it would make our roads a whole lot safer though.

I would guess that if there are accidents that it would be the fault of the software company(ies) that created the driving programs.

This is what makes me nervous (little too Big Brother):
California Bill Gives Electronic License Plates the Green Light
By Adario Strange
Sep 08, 2013

While forward-thinking drivers are considering the implications of supercharging stations for their Tesla vehicles and the impending arrival of Google’s driverless cars , another, far more personal technological development is coming to roads in California. A bill allowing the use of electronic license plates passed the state’s assembly last week, and is slated to be signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown.

What makes the electronic license plate so groundbreaking is that it lets the California government remotely post alerts on a license plate to indicate whether the driver of the vehicle is uninsured, or if their driver’s license has been suspended. The new plates would also allow authorities to post an Amber Alert across the screen, and even a “stolen” notice on the plate in the event the vehicle is illegally taken from its owner.

Okay, so the Amber Alert or Stolen Vehicle notices are great, but what's next: that the owner of the car is behind on child support payments? Is a convicted sex offender? What if it's not that driver of that car because they borrowed the car from a friend? It smacks of invasion of privacy to me.

SEE ALSO: Driverless Cars: Now Street-Legal in California

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16 Dec 2013 11:52 #7 by FredHayek
Wow. I hadn't read about the electronic license plates before. I would worry about mission creep on that one too.
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18 Dec 2013 19:29 #8 by gmule
Since autonomous vehicles will most likely travel in a line or pack we will all be held hostage behind the slowest of the vehicles on the road.

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19 Dec 2013 06:05 #9 by Nobody that matters

gmule wrote: Since autonomous vehicles will most likely travel in a line or pack we will all be held hostage behind the slowest of the vehicles on the road.


The slowest vehicle could be programmed to take turnouts and allow traffic to pass - unlike human drivers that take the line forming behind them as an indication of how 'safe' they're making people drive.

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19 Dec 2013 07:01 #10 by FredHayek
But there might be less aggression too. If people are checking e-mails or watching TV they might not care as much about slow traffic. They can still be productive.

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