CAN THIS HAPPEN HERE ?

archer wrote:

Arlen wrote: Google is NOT the government. Don't you know the difference? The government is DANGEROUS, not benign.

Are you saying that what is legal for a corporation should not be legal for the government?

Absolutely, that is exactly what I am saying, and what the constitution says.

I do hope that you are not a school teacher. If you are, lord help us!

Arlen wrote: [
Here is one big question which has bothered me for quite some time: Why is it that liberals and politicians of both stripes cannot see that they are Big Brother? Have they not read 1984? Have they no ability of introspection? The liberals of today are NOT the liberals of the 1960s (completely opposite!).

Arlen, I did not take you for an idealist. I think they have not only read it but that it serves as their holy grail. What bothers me is that so many are willing to become mindless drones serving the political class. Can I have some more bread and circus please.

Yesterday was veg out day for the tube......caught a documentary on Pivot about the hacking
group ANONYMOUS....it was a retrospective piece (2012)......in TODAY'S context the piece was
CHILLING and prophetic because Snowden was NOT on radar then....IF you get an opportunity
to see Pivot....sit down,have some popcorn and view ANONYMOUS....it will scare the sh** out of
you.

Hacking groups are wonderful. Their services are very valuable to internet enterprises and government agencies.

Arlen wrote:

archer wrote:

Arlen wrote: Google is NOT the government. Don't you know the difference? The government is DANGEROUS, not benign.

Are you saying that what is legal for a corporation should not be legal for the government?

Absolutely, that is exactly what I am saying, and what the constitution says.

I do hope that you are not a school teacher. If you are, lord help us!

Sorry, but I am as concerned with corporations spying on me as I am the government. Maybe you think corporations have your best interest at heart..... I don't.

You were just saying how wonderful spying was! And that our warm-fuzzy government has every right to do it, just as private enterprise does.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!!!

Arlen wrote: You were just saying how wonderful spying was! And that our warm-fuzzy government has every right to do it, just as private enterprise does.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!!!

I never said that and you know it, that's what maybe you expected me to say..... I said I was against the use of drones, and I never supported the act of spying on American citizens. What I did say was in this specific instance it was probably legal.You are the one who suggested there was a difference between the government spying and corporations doing the same. I do not, they are equally heinous.

Here ya go!

archer wrote: I have to agree with dog on this, if it's public airspace I doubt a warrant is even needed. How is this any different than the photos that Google takes both from the road and from satellite?

and here

archer wrote: ....Google is intentionally photographing your house and grounds along with everyone else in the world..,... There was no entering the home or searching through personal belongings. They simply looked at the property from public space such as you might from the road.

Right or wrong I doubt even the Supreme Court would find it illegal or unconstitutional.

and here

archer wrote: Are you saying that what is legal for a corporation should not be legal for the government?

How many sides of your mouth do you have, archer?

Arlen wrote: Here ya go!

archer wrote: I have to agree with dog on this, if it's public airspace I doubt a warrant is even needed. How is this any different than the photos that Google takes both from the road and from satellite?

and here

archer wrote: ....Google is intentionally photographing your house and grounds along with everyone else in the world..,... There was no entering the home or searching through personal belongings. They simply looked at the property from public space such as you might from the road.

Right or wrong I doubt even the Supreme Court would find it illegal or unconstitutional.

and here

archer wrote: Are you saying that what is legal for a corporation should not be legal for the government?

How many sides of your mouth do you have, archer?

Apparently more than you, you can only talk or of the wrong side of yours .

Arlen wrote: Hacking groups are wonderful. Their services are very valuable to internet enterprises and government agencies.

This documentary about hacking was NOT exclusive to the USA.....several hacking groups,
including ANONYMOUS were instrumental in the Middle East revolution/overturning of gov....after
viewing the doc. I came away with a feeling of "the radical 60's".....these individuals, female,male
OLD and young see the travesty of covert activities and found a voice (tool) that allowed them
to "even the playing fields" and they are STILL actively "evening the playing field" as we speak.

My admiration to Wilileaks, Snowden and others who have found a method to "let there be light".
And allow NO MUSHROOMS TO GROW......JMO