The Sovereign movement

Will the government start cracking down on the domestic terrorists and looney-tunes that think they can continue to flout the laws they are required to live under?

LadyJazzer wrote: Will the government start cracking down on the domestic terrorists and looney-tunes that think they can continue to flout the laws they are required to live under?

Why? They are currently releasing convicted illegal aliens into our general population.

If you would like to go off into the weeds about illegal aliens, feel free to start your own thread about that.

This thread is about "The Sovereign Movement"...

Insert standard irrelevant "Obama Derangement Syndrome" snark sentence here: _

Something the Dog Said wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: That's a clear bright line. One group believes in using violence to achieve their ends and the other believes that the answer lies in the ballot box. Not really any more difficult to distinguish between those two groups and Sierra Club and Earth Liberation Front for instance . . .

You mean like the Sovereign citizens who murdered the Las Vegas policemen while they were dining and the Sovereign citizen who shot the Forest Service employee and police officer today? The distinction is that so called Sovereign citizens employ murder and assault as opposed to the ballot box.

How many people have been murdered by the Earth Liberation Front?

Comprehension problems today Dog? That is precisely what I said was a clear bright line between the two groups archer mentioned. One believes that the problems can be solved at the ballot box, the other believes that the problems will only be addressed through violence. The parallel drawn was the Sierra Club and the Earth Liberation Front. One believes in changing the problems within the system, the other resorts to violence to try and effect change. In both instances the two groups have similar final objective but a strikingly dissimilar view about how to reach that goal. Every ideology has its extremists, but not every ideology feels that the ends justify any means necessary to achieve them . . .

The Las Vegas cop shooters that claimed to be a part of the sovereign movement? New evidence suggests in their home state they were part of the Occupy Wall Street crowd. Can we just say they were nutjobs now and not tar movements just because some scumbag cop killers join them?

FredHayek wrote: Will the Sovereign movement pick up steam as people see fines increase for not having health insurance as required by ACA? Already the number of people renouncing their citizenship is rising.

I see that as good riddance. If you can't support your government any more, you shouldn't be given the perks and privileges of being a citizen of that government. If you advocate the overthrow of the lawfully elected president, you are not a patriot. You are a traitor to the United States.

FredHayek wrote: The Las Vegas cop shooters...New evidence suggests....

Bullsh*t ... Even if they showed up for a meeting, that doesn't "suggest" that they were part of the movement. Everything they believed in was antithetical to OWS...

Nice try... But of course, no SOURCE, no LINK, no VERIFICATION... (More drivel from Grudge? WorldNutDaily? InfoWars? The source-free, fact-free echo-chamber?)

The Sovereign Citizens KILL COPS... PERIOD... These scumbags are domestic terrorists, and the fact that only a few pull the trigger, there's enough of them running around brandishing their external-metal-death-penises every time there's a welfare-rancher who doesn't want to pay his rightful taxes, and crashing their planes into IRS buildings, they they should remain on the list of terrorist organizations.

Yeah, people that throw "Don't tread on me" flags, and swastikas on the bodies of the COPS THEY KILL deserve nothing less than to be wiped off the face of the earth.

Something the Dog Said wrote: How many people have been murdered by the Earth Liberation Front?

Don't think we ever got an answer to that one...



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LadyJazzer wrote: Bullsh*t ... Even if they showed up for a meeting that doesn't "suggest" that they were part of the movement.

So having them show up for the protest at the ranch in Nevada and being asked to leave shouldn't suggest that they were any part of that movement either. Right?

LadyJazzer wrote:
Yeah, people that throw "Don't tread on me" flags, and swastikas on the bodies of the COPS THEY KILL deserve nothing less than to be wiped off the face of the earth.

Something the Dog Said wrote: How many people have been murdered by the Earth Liberation Front?

Don't think we ever got an answer to that one...

Cop Killing nutjobs deserve to be put down. On that we can firmly agree.

0 that I can find. ELF has caused millions and millions in porperty damage, and has put many lives in danger because of it, but it appears they've been lucky so far and haven't caused the deaths of anyone fighting their fires.

Can you quit cuttin and pasting that on every message now?

I keep asking until someone stops deflecting and avoiding the question, and answers it....

'0' ... What I thought... The rest of the hyperbole and abstraction is soooo worrisome...but irrelevant to the answer to the question.

LadyJazzer wrote: I keep asking until someone stops deflecting and avoiding the question, and answers it....

'0' ... What I thought... The rest of the hyperbole and abstraction is soooo worrisome...but irrelevant to the answer to the question.

Irrelevant to Dog's attempt at limiting the definition of terrorsm, but completely relevant to anyone that that considers massive property damage, arson and endangering the lives of those that have to fight the fires an act of terrorsm.