Colorado Gun Restrictions Upheld By Federal Judge

29 Jun 2014 18:49 #11 by HEARTLESS
You really can't read and understand can you? There is no way to determine the date a magazine was made, let alone purchased. The sheriffs have stated all along they can not enforce this law because of this. There were hundreds of thousands of magazines with higher capacities sold before July 1, 2013 when the law took effect. All of those were grandfathered and null per the law. Magazines with capacities over 15 rounds can no longer be transferred in Colorado. Every neighboring state has no such law, hence anyone that travels out of state need only figure it out.
If you support idiotic laws that nearly caused six contiguous counties to withdraw from Colorado to form their own state, that was opposed by 55 of the 62 county sheriffs in the initial lawsuit(Denver and Broomfield do not have elected sheriffs), then carry on and act astounded when the second American revolution starts up.

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29 Jun 2014 21:16 #12 by Cathy_Lee
"Not all regulation is infringement. Is your right to drive a car being infringed by a speed limit?"

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29 Jun 2014 21:41 #13 by jf1acai

Cathy_Lee wrote: "Not all regulation is infringement. Is your right to drive a car being infringed by a speed limit?"


WTF does that have to do with a poorly written law that can not be enforced?

IMO, the law should be invalidated due to stupidity, and reconsidered if they can figure out how to write one that might actually be effective, and then passes the usual procedures.

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30 Jun 2014 06:57 #14 by FredHayek
Excellent points. Personally I don't have an issue with paying for background checks and requiring background checks like the law is currently written, but the magazine ban is just badly written legislation that will do nothing.

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30 Jun 2014 07:17 #15 by intheaspens
Driving a car is not a right; it's a privilege. Owning the means to defend oneself and one's family is a right.

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30 Jun 2014 12:59 #16 by Cathy_Lee

jf1acai wrote:

Cathy_Lee wrote: "Not all regulation is infringement. Is your right to drive a car being infringed by a speed limit?"


WTF does that have to do with a poorly written law that can not be enforced?


Wow, I hope you don't debate in the public arena much, with that attitude.

The speed limit is a well-written law and people still disregard it. It doesn't mean we should throw the speed limit law out.

If driving a car isn't a right, then how do you have the privilege of driving a car?

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30 Jun 2014 16:03 #17 by HEARTLESS
Cathy please post where to find the right to drive as it didn't make the Bill of Rights on the US Constitution.

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30 Jun 2014 16:49 #18 by Something the Dog Said
The prosecutor will be able to shift the burden onto the owner of the magazine if the magazine design changes from the design that was in place on July 1, 2013. Obviously the owner could not have purchased the magazine prior to July 1, 2013 if the magazine was manufactured from a design that changed after July 1, 2013. So it will come down to whether or not the manufacturer changes their design in any way since July 1, 2013. My guess is that the competitive nature of marketplace will cause manufacturers to make changes in design, either to improve the product or to improve their profit margins.

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30 Jun 2014 17:15 #19 by FredHayek
Some magazine manufacturers like Magpul do date their products for purposes of recalls.

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30 Jun 2014 17:23 #20 by HEARTLESS
Since CRS-18-12-302 &303 do not restrict non-residents from bringing in larger capacity magazines (LCMs) for personal use and since the laws do not specifically prohibit Colorado residents from bringing LCMs lawfully purchased from out-of-state sources for personal use, exactly whom will said prosecutor shift burden of proof to?

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