Global Cooling is Imminent

04 Aug 2014 10:01 #11 by HEARTLESS
While working for the Colorado Rockies Baseball Club we experienced a 100 year rain event in 1995, then while working for the Broncos at then Invesco Mile High Stadium we had another 100 year rain event. Last September northern Colorado experienced a 500 to 1,000 year rain event, and now July may have set more record rainfalls. All these in the last 15 years. Global warming my a$$.

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04 Aug 2014 10:19 #12 by ScienceChic
Heartless, did you know that one of the predictions that climate scientists have made is that weather events, such as rains and snows that only happen "once every 100 years", will start happening more often, ie more than once every 100 years. So what you've just said actually supports global warming and the predictions of the climate change that comes with it. :P

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04 Aug 2014 10:50 #13 by HEARTLESS
First they told us we would have massive glacial ice melt and sea levels would flood all the coastal cities, didn't happen. Then we were told massive increase in ALL severe weather. Not really happening. If I had beat them to the punch, I would call it PFM(Pure F'n Magic) because it doesn't require a shred of evidence. It IS the natural climate change that has been present for millennium and more effected by volcanic activity, solar changes and sea changes than man caused issues.

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04 Aug 2014 11:28 #14 by ScienceChic
The glaciers are melting and coastal cities aren't predicted to be submerged yet. I'm curious as to what timeline you saw, because no scientific reports I've read said that it would happen by now so that is still on the horizon.

Same with "massive increase in ALL weather" - no claims in science are ever couched in absolute terms, so that likely came from blogs or media reports either accidentally, or intentionally, selling it otherwise.

Also often misprepresented is that natural climate forcings aren't still happening or aren't factored in by scientists. They are, and are not disputed by climate scientists. The issue is that the human-caused climate forcings' effects are far outweighing the natural forcings. The ocean is turning acidic because of the huge outpouring of carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels that had been sequestered underground. In the past, these would get released naturally during plate tectonics or earthquakes, etc and cause the earth to enter a warm period. Now, it's that AND us digging them up and burning them, and what we're adding far exceeds what the natural environment adds. And far exceeds what the natural environment can handle in terms of re-sequestering (ie the ocean absorbing huge amounts of carbon dioxide, at some point it will cease to be a carbon sink because it will become saturated).

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04 Aug 2014 11:38 #15 by HEARTLESS
Solar activity is changing and not man caused, the polarity of the earth is changing and also not man caused, so blaming everything on man caused pollution is an agenda driven junk science effort.

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04 Aug 2014 11:48 #16 by ScienceChic
Okay, so show me the studies that demonstrate that all of the climate changes that have been seen over the past 4 decades is due primarily to solar activity and the polarity of the earth changing. Change my mind. :)

Then show me where it was said that the coastal cities would be submerged by now, that the Arctic would be ice-free by now, or that natural causes are the sole or primary reason for the changing timing of flowers blooming (now earlier) and animals mating/birthing, migration of plants and animals to different habitats that are now more like where they had been than where they were.

Where is the carbon dioxide coming from that is acidifying the oceans. What else is killing the coral reefs if not the increased acidity?

How do you explain the Keeling curve?

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04 Aug 2014 12:07 - 04 Aug 2014 12:35 #17 by FredHayek
Al Gore was predicting these disaster scenarios and the press published the worst case models to create hysteria and make immediate action on global warming much more likely. Now Al Gore is laughed at and the AGW people use much longer time frames for one degree increases. Plus also cover themselves by saying if it is hotter, it is AGW, if it is colder, it is AGW, if it is wetter, it is caused by man, if it is drought, it is because of us. Meanwhile Europe didn't achieve their Kyoto goals, Australia decided they couldn't afford the economic damage of carbon credits. The US junked coal plants and built new natural gas power plants, but now the enviromentalists want to take on natural gas, because it comes from fracking.

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04 Aug 2014 12:10 #18 by OmniScience
There is no changing your mind, SC.

Regardless of all the climate change predictions which fail to take place, there are those who refuse to admit that there are a substantial number of influential variables on this planet that science does not understand, let alone account for, in the climate change equation.

Regardless of the massive profits being made in the Carbon Game, and the increasing government control created through alarmism, the enviro-lemmings will believe anything they are told if it gives them the warm and fuzzy feeling of "being green", and "saving the planet".

Meanwhile, real, solvable environmental problems continue on, mostly unaddressed.

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04 Aug 2014 12:15 #19 by ScienceChic
Of course there is. It's just not going to be done with factless-based claims that have no scientific credibility.

Which climate predictions have failed to take place?

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04 Aug 2014 20:16 #20 by Venturer
Replied by Venturer on topic Global Cooling is Imminent
Hmmm, so where you working next? Wondering where the next rain event will be.

HEARTLESS wrote: While working for the Colorado Rockies Baseball Club we experienced a 100 year rain event in 1995, then while working for the Broncos at then Invesco Mile High Stadium we had another 100 year rain event. Last September northern Colorado experienced a 500 to 1,000 year rain event, and now July may have set more record rainfalls. All these in the last 15 years. Global warming my a$$.

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