The New American Trend?

pineinthegrass wrote:

Mary Scott wrote:

homeagain wrote: Another perspective...What IF any country (Russia,India,N.K.any M.E. country) produced a film for
distribution world wide...ONLY it depicted the assassination (in parody)of OUR President. What would
OUR reaction be? Pissed,probably.

Doesn't anyone here remember this? Sheesh!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)

Yes, I remember that movie and that conservative commentators were outraged about it (the link shows Hillary Clinton was outraged too). But I don't recall any calls for attacking the movie studio or producers of the film. I think it was more like how dare the liberals do such a thing.

Back to North Korea, I wonder how could they get the expertise to do such sophisticated hacking. I'd think only the most privileged would own a computer and I assume they severely limit internet access. Without a large base of computer users to draw from, where do they find these expert hackers?

It seems they have trouble getting talented doctors because every time a leader gets sick they have to bring in a doctor from outside the country. I wonder if they are hiring foreign hackers?

CNN OUT FRONT with Erin Burnett, just aired THAT answer...remember the YOUNG leader of N. Korea
sees "warfare" differently than his older counterpart...he has been RECRUITING young H.S. graduates
across nations and amassing a HUGE army,spread out across the globe Bureau 121 is just ONE of MANY...
That GROUP is about 1,800 strong and there are MANY more out there. Estimated around 8,000. You might want to review this eve's OUT FRONT CNN.

homeagain wrote: CNN OUT FRONT with Erin Burnett, just aired THAT answer...remember the YOUNG leader of N. Korea
sees "warfare" differently than his older counterpart...he has been RECRUITING young H.S. graduates
across nations and amassing a HUGE army,spread out across the globe Bureau 121 is just ONE of MANY...
That GROUP is about 1,800 strong and there are MANY more out there. Estimated around 8,000. You might want to review this eve's OUT FRONT CNN.

I don't see "Out Front" listed tonight on CNN unless it's part of "CNN Tonight" at 8pm.

Kim Jon-un has been in power for three years and I don't think that's long enough to develop a strong in-house (N Korea) group of super hackers fresh out of high school. But it could be enough time to add outside help.

And then again, the Obama Administration is still reluctant to publicly say it's North Korea (I think it's all leaks so far). Here is an interesting perspective...

If the hack was all about stopping the release of “The Interview,” why didn’t that come up earlier? For the first couple of weeks, the messages that accompanied leaked data didn’t mention the movie at all. It was much more about Sony and its executives—something underlined by the vindictiveness of the leaks.

Here’s a key paragraph from a message sent on Nov. 30 to an IDG News Service reporter from the same email address used to leak the first cache of Sony data:

“Sony and Sony Pictures have made terrible racial discrimination and human rights violation, indiscriminate tyranny and restructuring in recent years. It has brought damage to a lot of people, some of whom are among us. Nowadays Sony Pictures is about to prey on the weak with a plan of another indiscriminate restructuring for their own benefits. This became a decisive motive of our action. We required Sony Pictures to stop this and pay proper monetary compensation to the victims.”

The movie wasn’t mentioned until a message on Dec. 8, and then it was in addition to previous demands made by the group.

“Do carry out our demand if you want to escape us. And, Stop immediately showing the movie of terrorism which can break the regional peace and cause the War!”

The movie wasn’t mentioned by name until Dec. 10, when the hackers also issued their threat to movie theaters.

www.pcworld.com/article/2861492/think-no...hink-about-this.html

CNN Out Front Erin Burnett is on at 500PM MST...she use to anchor the financials on CNBC,along with
Marie Bartiroma (?). Actually a pretty good commentator, DOES ask the hard questions, however, I will
TRULY miss Candy Crowley on State of the Union....she's leaving at end of year, I understand.

homeagain wrote: CNN Out Front Erin Burnett is on at 500PM MST...she use to anchor the financials on CNBC,along with
Marie Bartiroma (?). Actually a pretty good commentator, DOES ask the hard questions, however, I will
TRULY miss Candy Crowley on State of the Union....she's leaving at end of year, I understand.

Well hopefully Crowley won't head up another "unbiased" presidential debate... that was a disgusting display.

Here's a thought on this from Mitt Romney:

www.ijreview.com/2014/12/219090-romney-s...utm_campaign=Culture

Never thought I'd support anything coming from Mitt. I was wrong.

ZHawke wrote: Here's a thought on this from Mitt Romney:

www.ijreview.com/2014/12/219090-romney-s...utm_campaign=Culture

Never thought I'd support anything coming from Mitt. I was wrong.

I agree. The same thing should have been done with the Dutch cartoonist an his Mohamed cartoon... every paper should have printed that cartoon in defiance, instead, they all ran from it like scared dogs.

At the end of that link is the closing statement:

Translation: Without the freedom of artistic expression, America loses its culture and identity.

I would modify that and remove the word "artistic" from the sentence and then make a couple of observations.

The current threat, which everyone seems so incensed about is essentially the same tactic that the left regularly employs against companies which they take issue with for a variety of reasons. True, the degree is different, threats to kill people to compel change instead of threats to kill the companies commerce to compel change, but the underlying tactic is the same.

The other point I'd like to make is this. What would those who decry the decision have to say if Sony ignored the threat and it was carried out? Would these same people be demanding that Sony be held accountable for putting profits above the safety of people by releasing the movie? Would we see a class action lawsuit to hold Sony responsible for their negligence?

Seems like Sony was in a classic Hobson's choice based on what I am seeing thus far and chose the safety of their patrons. I find that commendable, not condemable.

My DH and I had this discussion,came to SAME conclusion.Holmes and movie Gangster Squad is NOW
the bar of BETTER JUDGEMENT....JMO

PrintSmith wrote: At the end of that link is the closing statement:

Translation: Without the freedom of artistic expression, America loses its culture and identity.

I would modify that and remove the word "artistic" from the sentence and then make a couple of observations.

The current threat, which everyone seems so incensed about is essentially the same tactic that the left regularly employs against companies which they take issue with for a variety of reasons. True, the degree is different, threats to kill people to compel change instead of threats to kill the companies commerce to compel change, but the underlying tactic is the same.

The other point I'd like to make is this. What would those who decry the decision have to say if Sony ignored the threat and it was carried out? Would these same people be demanding that Sony be held accountable for putting profits above the safety of people by releasing the movie? Would we see a class action lawsuit to hold Sony responsible for their negligence?

Seems like Sony was in a classic Hobson's choice based on what I am seeing thus far and chose the safety of their patrons. I find that commendable, not condemable.

Great points the PS, lets also not forget the trend of liberal college universities barring certain conservative voices while allowing the most extreme liberal ones, including the hiring of guys like Bill Ayers.