The Pros and Cons of Hillary for President

It's been deathly quiet around here for a while... anyone wanna play?

I figured with Hillary's obvious presidential run, this would be a good time to start talking about all of her attributes and fails. Is the mere fact that she has been in high positions enough to carry her through or does actual performance and/or accomplishments matter? Make your case to the undecided....

As Secretary of State, she has traveled further than any other in that job!
She has been vetted...retract, just found out about her secret e-mail account and server.

That may very well be the death of her candidacy if there is something nasty found in those emails, but I'm sure Hillary is smart enough to not deliver any to the government. This will be just like the IRS scandal that the majority of media will say "nothing to see here!" and direct it's followers to a bridge type scandal.

If there are still any Hillary fans around here, I'd like a summary of actual accomplishments beyond being elected, or married to, or appointed to "accomplishments".

That isn't going to happen without a drastic overhaul of the process by which representatives are elected. The primary system in place now assures primacy of the two we currently have, yet another instance of a system that has been designed and codified to protect those currently at the top, which is all anything the federal government does these days is designed to do.

And that is primarily the reason I have devoted myself to opposing any and all attempts to further consolidate power at the federal level and seek the opposite ends. Sure it is a great utopian ideal to have a society in which everyone is fed, everyone has shelter, everyone can go see a doctor without it costing them a penny, but such utopian pipe dreams have a price I am not willing to pay attached to them, and that price is a return to being a subject of an omnipotent central government.

To achieve what you are seeking SC requires a fundamental restoration of the system of government put in place by the framers, the kind of system championed by Thomas Jefferson that valued individual liberty over all else. We have to return to a system of government where the majority of the tax revenue supplied by the individual is given to the level of government that is closest to them and the one that is furthest and least representative of them receives the smallest share of tax revenue instead of the largest share.

It would require a willingness to abandon the individual welfare subsidy programs enacted by the federal government in their entirety and returning that responsibility to the local and State governments where it properly belongs.

And I just don't see that happening in my lifetime . . .

ScienceChic wrote: While I like the idea of Hilary for President, her ties to Wall St make me shudder, I'm tired of the career politicians from the same two parties being in office, and in the polarized political climate in which we are currently operating, I just don't think she'd be good for the country. We already have extremists who "believe" without a shadow of a doubt that Obama is a communist Muslim foreigner (I'm still waiting for that martial law to be implemented). Follow that up with a Clinton and the partisan divide widens.

We need fresh blood and a different party, both in the White House & as a significant majority in Congress.

Jeb Bush & Hillary are competing to win Wall Street's affection. Since Hillary is more of a sure thing, I think the bankers will put it all in for her.

This email mess of Hillary's MAY be more problematic than I thought. It appears her own words are coming back to haunt her as she has made past statements bashing Bush about having secret emails. It just blows my mind that she could either be so stupid, or think of herself so above the law... there are no other options. For the government to have to demand those emails is beyond ridiculous... she should be asking the government for HER personal emails. Oh well, I predict that not enough media or people will care, just as long as she retains her girl parts, which seems to be her most valuable attribute at this point. I keep hoping a woman on the right will emerge to takes away that last poker chip.

Pro: The Libs haven't totally destroyed this nation yet, give them another 4 years.
Con: See the above.

PLEASE, No more Clinton's. No More Bush's. And definitely no more lying, deceptive, non-transparent, socialist talkers with no clue on foreign policy.

I wonder how Hillary would respond to a crisis if she were Pres? Resign her post and withdraw to the shadows like she did after Benghazi?