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towermonkey wrote: It takes a man of uncommon patriotism to call for unity among the den of traitors that the democrat party has turned into. They are using nonstop investigations (which have turned up ZERO actionable results), not so veiled threats against his family, the media and even the intelligence services against him fully supported by the traitors in the democrat party. It would seem that today's democrats welcome a surveillance state where anything can be listened to without warrant or reason, where government agencies are used as political weapons. It fills me with revulsion to watch the decline of our country into totalitarianism while being cheered all the way by ignorant masses because "orange man bad!".
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towermonkey wrote: It takes a man of uncommon patriotism to call for unity among the den of traitors that the democrat party has turned into. They are using nonstop investigations (which have turned up ZERO actionable results), not so veiled threats against his family, the media and even the intelligence services against him fully supported by the traitors in the democrat party. It would seem that today's democrats welcome a surveillance state where anything can be listened to without warrant or reason, where government agencies are used as political weapons. It fills me with revulsion to watch the decline of our country into totalitarianism while being cheered all the way by ignorant masses because "orange man bad!".
This is truly amazing. Literally everything in your post is wrong. First, there's your bizarre and downright medieval notion that treason consists of disagreeing with the head of state. Then you say that the 17 (IIRC) investigations have produced zero results, despite numerous indictments and guilty pleas. As for veiled threats against his family, what the hell are you referring to? It's the idiot king himself who threatened Michael Cohen's family like the wannabe mob boss he is. After this, you veer into a freakish paranoid fantasy about a totalitarian surveillance state, supported by absolutely no facts or evidence.
Seriously, is your post a kind of subtle joke? Are you mocking the trump chumps? If so, you did a great job.
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homeagain wrote: [quote="towermonkey" post=355775]It takes a man of uncommon patriotism to call for unity among the den of traitors that the democrat party has turned into. They are using nonstop investigations (which have turned up ZERO actionable results), not so veiled threats against his family, the media and even the intelligence services against him fully supported by the traitors in the democrat party. Iaget would seem that today's democrats welcome a surveillance state where anything can be listened to without warrant or reason, where government ncies are used as political weapons. It fills me with revulsion to watch the decline of our country into totalitarianism while being cheered all the way by ignorant masses because "orange man bad!".
Perhaps your interpretation of events are somewhat biased...…..it is called OVERSIGHT and our democracy is based on checks and balances......the R'S did NOT fulfill their obligation to UPHOLD the constitution 's concrete mandate......OVERSIGHT. The king
has had carte blanche and NO ONE dared to say "the king has no clothes on"...….until NOW. Oversight has been long over due, but it is finally on board. jmo
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towermonkey wrote: Where did I post ANYTHING to the effect that disagreeing with a head of state is treason?
towermonkey wrote: I meant that all of the investigations have produced nothing actionable against the president. Sure, they've got some BS "lying to the FBI" charges against a few people in the usual Mueller way which is to bully and intimidate until you get the result you want, not the truth. I can see that not many here have kept up with the litany of abuses that have been constantly laid bare about these investigations. If you haven't , you really should try to see beyond what CNN and MSNBC tell you. They are no better and probably worse than Fox. Has anyone been charged with anything relating to Trump?
towermonkey wrote: The veiled threats against the family remark was referring to Adam Schiff declaring that DT Jr. would likely be indicted because of phone calls to his father that never took place and wouldn't have been illegal if they had. I don't know if you keep up on social media at all but there have been a chorus of slurs and threats against the first family. Ivanka is constantly dodging vile insults from celebs and one celeb actually called for young Barron to be kidnapped and placed in a cage with pedophiles. BTW, Peter Fonda still has his Twitter account....
towermonkey wrote: As to Cohen claiming that his family was threatened... well I guess you can choose to believe a serial liar or not. There's been no proof offered.
towermonkey wrote: FISA court abuses have been all over the news if you care to watch. If you aren't paying attention, you really should. It came out years ago that essentially every electronic communication is now being intercepted and stored. Do you really believe that they just stopped doing that? Clapper and Brennan have both been caught on tape lying to Congress about it and yet you choose to believe them? Well, it is a sad day to see so many people willfully giving up their freedom.
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homeagain wrote: [quote="towermonkey" post=355775]It takes a man of uncommon patriotism to call for unity among the den of traitors that the democrat party has turned into. They are using nonstop investigations (which have turned up ZERO actionable results), not so veiled threats against his family, the media and even the intelligence services against him fully supported by the traitors in the democrat party. Iaget would seem that today's democrats welcome a surveillance state where anything can be listened to without warrant or reason, where government ncies are used as political weapons. It fills me with revulsion to watch the decline of our country into totalitarianism while being cheered all the way by ignorant masses because "orange man bad!".
Perhaps your interpretation of events are somewhat biased...…..it is called OVERSIGHT and our democracy is based on checks and balances......the R'S did NOT fulfill their obligation to UPHOLD the constitution 's concrete mandate......OVERSIGHT. The king
has had carte blanche and NO ONE dared to say "the king has no clothes on"...….until NOW. Oversight has been long over due, but it is finally on board. jmo
Uhm, how exactly can you say that? There have been nonstop investigations since Trump became the nominee. They have found nothing with which to charge Trump. Not one single thing! He has to be the cleanest politician in the history of politics! (sorry about the weird quotes - I can't seem to get the quoting down on this board)
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Well said TM... the problem the fact deniers have is that they only see what they want to see, they can't believe that people in powerful government and law enforcement positions would use that power in a political way. We don't even have to wait for the history books to be written about this, all we have to do is look at how it all started and how both parties were scared to death of an outsider coming in to shatter the the establishment that has been broken for as long time.towermonkey wrote:
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towermonkey wrote: It takes a man of uncommon patriotism to call for unity among the den of traitors that the democrat party has turned into. They are using nonstop investigations (which have turned up ZERO actionable results), not so veiled threats against his family, the media and even the intelligence services against him fully supported by the traitors in the democrat party. It would seem that today's democrats welcome a surveillance state where anything can be listened to without warrant or reason, where government agencies are used as political weapons. It fills me with revulsion to watch the decline of our country into totalitarianism while being cheered all the way by ignorant masses because "orange man bad!".
This is truly amazing. Literally everything in your post is wrong. First, there's your bizarre and downright medieval notion that treason consists of disagreeing with the head of state. Then you say that the 17 (IIRC) investigations have produced zero results, despite numerous indictments and guilty pleas. As for veiled threats against his family, what the hell are you referring to? It's the idiot king himself who threatened Michael Cohen's family like the wannabe mob boss he is. After this, you veer into a freakish paranoid fantasy about a totalitarian surveillance state, supported by absolutely no facts or evidence.
Seriously, is your post a kind of subtle joke? Are you mocking the trump chumps? If so, you did a great job.
Where did I post ANYTHING to the effect that disagreeing with a head of state is treason?
I meant that all of the investigations have produced nothing actionable against the president. Sure, they've got some BS "lying to the FBI" charges against a few people in the usual Mueller way which is to bully and intimidate until you get the result you want, not the truth. I can see that not many here have kept up with the litany of abuses that have been constantly laid bare about these investigations. If you haven't , you really should try to see beyond what CNN and MSNBC tell you. They are no better and probably worse than Fox. Has anyone been charged with anything relating to Trump?
The veiled threats against the family remark was referring to Adam Schiff declaring that DT Jr. would likely be indicted because of phone calls to his father that never took place and wouldn't have been illegal if they had. I don't know if you keep up on social media at all but there have been a chorus of slurs and threats against the first family. Ivanka is constantly dodging vile insults from celebs and one celeb actually called for young Barron to be kidnapped and placed in a cage with pedophiles. BTW, Peter Fonda still has his Twitter account....
As to Cohen claiming that his family was threatened... well I guess you can choose to believe a serial liar or not. There's been no proof offered.
FISA court abuses have been all over the news if you care to watch. If you aren't paying attention, you really should. It came out years ago that essentially every electronic communication is now being intercepted and stored. Do you really believe that they just stopped doing that? Clapper and Brennan have both been caught on tape lying to Congress about it and yet you choose to believe them? Well, it is a sad day to see so many people willfully giving up their freedom.
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