Happy President's Day!

Treason is a crime committed against a country that you are a subject of. When the southern states seceded, they were no longer subject to the United States. Why was Jefferson Davis never tried for treason?

As to the reason for the civil war, well, the victors get to write the history books. But, if it was all about slavery, why then did Lincoln, in his inaugural address say “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”?

Try this article on for size and get back to me:

medium.com/@jonathanusa/everything-you-k...s-wrong-9e94f0118269

towermonkey wrote: Treason is a crime committed against a country that you are a subject of. When the southern states seceded, they were no longer subject to the United States. Why was Jefferson Davis never tried for treason?

As to the reason for the civil war, well, the victors get to write the history books. But, if it was all about slavery, why then did Lincoln, in his inaugural address say “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”?

Try this article on for size and get back to me:

medium.com/@jonathanusa/everything-you-k...s-wrong-9e94f0118269

www.forbes.com/sites/theodorecasey/2017/...nymore/#5b1461349ad8

It is a glorified blogging twitter site...…...NOT impressed with your sourcing....would it be better to CONTRIBUTE money to preserve civil war sites, rather than purchase membership
to a blogging site? JMO

As I expected... just, never mind. It was a waste of time to try and have a discussion about this. I knew it, but tried anyway.

Abraham Lincoln did move the country more from being an assemblage of states to a nation, good or bad. And since this move has become stronger. There are still a number of ways states rights have shown themselves. Colorado and other states being allowed to sell marijuana in defiance of federal laws banning the practice. Thankfully President Obama chose to tell his justice department to stand down in this case. I like the idea of individual states being allowed to test out different ideas, sometimes as a regional thing that may never expand beyond their own borders, and sometimes, like MJ again, seeing Colorado and Washington succeed with retail marijuana sales before other states legalize it.

I do think it was important for the US to become a nation, especially in the 20th Century. I cannot imagine a confederation of states defeating Hitler and Japan. It would also be much more difficult to hash out the highway system without a strong federal presence. And a federal gasoline tax to pay for it.

I tend to refuse to read links after I've been told that my ancestors were "traitors to the United States of America and became so in order to protect and defend evil human rights abuses for the sake of greed, sloth, and avarice." People starting from that bigotry are not likely to post thoughtful articles.

towermonkey wrote: I tend to refuse to read links after I've been told that my ancestors were "traitors to the United States of America and became so in order to protect and defend evil human rights abuses for the sake of greed, sloth, and avarice." People starting from that bigotry are not likely to post thoughtful articles.

She posted the link before informing you about your ancestors. Next excuse?

Well, to be honest, I was replying to homeagain's post, not SC's - look at the timestamps. I hadn't even seen SC's post with the link until after she said I didn't read her links.

Slavery was an abomination (and still is) but was not the primary cause of the Civil War. Tariffs were. Slavery was legal in the northern states for longer than it was in the south, but not by the choice of the south.

towermonkey wrote: Well, to be honest, I was replying to homeagain's post, not SC's - look at the timestamps. I hadn't even seen SC's post with the link until after she said I didn't read her links.

Slavery was an abomination (and still is) but was not the primary cause of the Civil War. Tariffs were. Slavery was legal in the northern states for longer than it was in the south, but not by the choice of the south.

MY link was posted first BEFORE I posted that it was not just my opinion.....show me a credible link (not a blog) that states your facts as you have laid them out....I WILL be open
to that source.....and perhaps we COULD have an earnest exchange.

www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/tari...rican-civil-war.html

I HAVE A HEADACHE.....this is long and laborious, but I think it answers the question. IF I
read it correctly......tariffs were secondary concern.