CONTEMPT for the Constitution....

21 Oct 2019 17:40 #1 by homeagain
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/201...se-phony/4055162002/

CAN'T get more concise than that.......the collective has a CLEAR AND PRESENT danger to deal with now....'.'PHONY'' PIECE OF PAPER, the king has declared....so-o-o does someone want to EXPLAIN this to me, because I am pretty sure you CAN'T JUSTIFY this jerk any longer.

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21 Oct 2019 20:20 #2 by Pony Soldier
If yu bothered to actually read what he said instead of what your fake news says he said, you would realize that he was saying that the people citing the emoluments clause were phony, not the actual clause. He was hosting for free so there wouldn't have been any profits to trigger the clause. Politicians for years have been getting filthy rich by being in elected office. Trump will lose billions in net worth. I wonder why that is....

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22 Oct 2019 07:31 #3 by homeagain

towermonkey wrote: If yu bothered to actually read what he said instead of what your fake news says he said, you would realize that he was saying that the people citing the emoluments clause were phony, not the actual clause. He was hosting for free so there wouldn't have been any profits to trigger the clause. Politicians for years have been getting filthy rich by being in elected office. Trump will lose billions in net worth. I wonder why that is....


[/b]PLEASE do your research.....because your statement is INCORRECT......I am weary of the
DENIAL and the inability to reach an INDEPENDENT thought process.

HOSTING FOR FREE......now there is a concept that truly requires rigorous research...the king
does NOTHING that does not benefit his bottom line.....the collective has NO concept of what
the Constitution means.....it is just mind blowing in observing the LACK OF A SKILL SET that
allows intelligent analysis to thrive.

And NO I am not providing a link to back my post.......YOU do the hard lifting, because it is there in factcheck,and OTHER political UNBAISED sources.....

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22 Oct 2019 09:15 #4 by koobookie

towermonkey wrote: If yu bothered to actually read what he said instead of what your fake news says he said, you would realize that he was saying that the people citing the emoluments clause were phony, not the actual clause. He was hosting for free so there wouldn't have been any profits to trigger the clause. Politicians for years have been getting filthy rich by being in elected office. Trump will lose billions in net worth. I wonder why that is....


Just because Trump says he is losing billions does not mean that it is true.

Because he tells us he is hosting for free does not mean that he will not reap monetary benefit from the event. Remember that he is known for lying - can't quite remember the total, but I think it's around 12,000 false or misleading claims made to date.

As a businessman, he knows that calling attention to his property will be beneficial to his bottom line when he steps down and resumes control of his business empire.

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22 Oct 2019 09:22 #5 by homeagain

towermonkey wrote: If yu bothered to actually read what he said instead of what your fake news says he said, you would realize that he was saying that the people citing the emoluments clause were phony, not the actual clause. He was hosting for free so there wouldn't have been any profits to trigger the clause. Politicians for years have been getting filthy rich by being in elected office. Trump will lose billions in net worth. I wonder why that is....


"TRUMP DISMISSED AS PHONY A SECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT BARS FED OFFICIALS FROM ACCEPTING GIFT FROM FOREIGN GOV.''

''You people with your phony emolument clause.''.....YOU (COLLECTIVELY) still do not use
analytical, independent skills.......the king DOES NOT consider the Constitution valid nor
does he even hide his contempt for it's content......observe his behavior.....call me out for
using the noun KING......THAT IS his behavior and I will defend it to the ground....kings can be
overthrown and the end of the year will be a spectacular sight,

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22 Oct 2019 09:48 #6 by Pony Soldier
Yes, HA, I see that you can pull one sentence out of context and try and spin it to your advantage while using your usual derisive name calling.

Kabookie, you are right. I don't know what impact the presidency will have on Trump's overall wealth, but I can see what impact it has had on past presidents and have to wonder why that isn't an issue for people. As to the lying total, I don't really buy into that. The last time I bothered to look at that ridiculous thing it was mostly things like crowd size... big deal.

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22 Oct 2019 09:49 #7 by ScienceChic
Trump said, and I quote (because I actually listened to 18min of the 20min press conference): “You people, with this phony Emoluments Clause.”

He didn't say, "You people, with your phony Emoluments Clause." He said THIS phony Emoluments Clause. There's no spinning this, it's pretty damn clear what he meant. He has no idea what's in the Constitution, nor does he give two sh**s that he's violating the law, nay he justifies it by making it up in his head that Obama and George Washington did it too.

That press conference was a hot mess the rest of the time. He can't stay on topic, finish a thought, or refrain from lying. Obama's deals came after he left office, and Hoover and Kennedy also donated their salaries. Benefiting oneself while still in office was explicitly forbidden in the Constitution and additionally lectured upon by our Founding Fathers (I recommend re-reading Alexander Hamilton's Federalist Papers). Trump was obviously in the wrong because he was not only condemned by Democrats but Republicans as well, and he quickly reversed course due to the pushback. It doesn't matter that he claims he wouldn't make any money off of it (a crock of BS, as Doral could set whatever pricing they want and Trump has been less forthcoming of his financials than any other President), and his claim that he'd "lose billions" is another unfounded load of bull. His property was already losing millions, he did this to prop it up.


TRACKING PRESIDENT TRUMP’S UNPRECEDENTED CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
By CREW - Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, As of October 22, 2019
Total conflicts to date: 2,557
Days in office: 1,005
Visits to Trump properties by President Trump: 387
Visits to Trump golf courses: 240
Political events held at Trump properties: 67
Events held by special interest groups at Trump properties: 95
Foreign officials who visited a Trump business: 123
Members of Congress who visited a Trump business: 96
Foreign trademarks granted to Trump businesses: 63


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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22 Oct 2019 11:53 #9 by Pony Soldier
BTW, not sure if you realize this, but anyone can write anything they want on Twitter. It is about as respected as a source as toilet paper.

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22 Oct 2019 12:49 - 22 Oct 2019 12:51 #10 by koobookie

towermonkey wrote: www.google.com/amp/s/www.reviewjournal.c...the-white-house/amp/


I'm unsure why you are bringing this up. Obama did not promote any business while he was in office, and to my recollection, did not even promote his books.

As I understand it, and verified by your link, his assets were primarily T-Bonds.

According to documents Obama filed in May of 2009 (another round is due next month), most of the first family's money is invested in plain vanilla U.S. Treasury bonds. Those are the kinds of low-yield investments that are unlikely to provoke any conflict of interest concerns.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...AR2010041603420.html

The majority of Obamas money has been made after he left the office. Can you point out an action that Obama took that shows he made decisions while in office that he personally profited from?

We can certainly point to Trump profiting off decisions he makes while in office. That's why there is an Emoluments clause in the Constitution. (BTW - it's not phony.)

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