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AOC Refuses To Pay Her Dues
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13 Jan 2020 08:24 #1
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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America's favorite former bartender is tired of sending money to the DNC so they can use it to prop up centrist Democrats. She wants instead to send her money to the candidates she likes who are good socialists. If she gets enough other Democrat Socialists on board could we see a schism in the party? Or do you think Pelosi will convince her that a moderate Democrat is better than losing the seat to a moderate Republican?
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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14 Jan 2020 07:58 #2
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I think it’s pretty obvious at this point the the democrat party is going through a split.
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14 Jan 2020 19:23 #3
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It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
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Being fractured by a moron bartender with the common sense of a sponge. She is even leading the "older wise woman" (lol, yeah right) by the nose. I can't imagine any educated Democrats thinking AOC is anything but a bomb that's going to blow up the party.
It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
George Orwell
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15 Jan 2020 01:39 #4
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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AOC leading Pelosi? Hardly. Look at what's getting passed legislatively and by whom. I suspect that narrative is being pushed by those with a vested interest in seeing the Democratic party split and fight amongst themselves; the media certainly keeps this theme of "The Squad vs Everyone" up because anything involving AOC means clicks.
But, reality?
I do agree that AOC (and the Justice Dems, which I've mentioned before in discussions on AOC) are poison for the party. She's made some good points in a few Congressional hearings, but she's done nothing to warrant the extensive media coverage she's gotten. I think it makes her seem like she has more power than she really has, and it distorts what's really happening with legislation and Democratic leadership on the hill.
I do agree that AOC (and the Justice Dems, which I've mentioned before in discussions on AOC) are poison for the party. She's made some good points in a few Congressional hearings, but she's done nothing to warrant the extensive media coverage she's gotten. I think it makes her seem like she has more power than she really has, and it distorts what's really happening with legislation and Democratic leadership on the hill.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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15 Jan 2020 08:16 #5
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Good points SC. There is a difference between what draws headlines and what actually gets done. Perfect example? Sanders. His legislative record is empty. Mainly the guy who doesn't vote to take us to war, but he has shown very few examples of collecting his colleagues to do anything. Elizabeth Warren does have a record of helping out consumers against the big, predatory corporations.
AOC and her squad do get headline of the man bites dog sort. Especially Talib and Omar who constantly do and say inappropriate things, especially Omar. She just doesn't seem to realize what plays in her Somali district doesn't translate to Peoria.
AOC and her squad do get headline of the man bites dog sort. Especially Talib and Omar who constantly do and say inappropriate things, especially Omar. She just doesn't seem to realize what plays in her Somali district doesn't translate to Peoria.
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15 Jan 2020 08:54 #6
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Have to agree with you on the Justice Dems. That Chakrabarti guy that AOC had as her CoS was a straight up Nazi and didn't even bother to hide the fact. That is the Sanders wing of the party and it will split it I believe. He has garnered a lot of college student support because he says what they are being taught.
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ScienceChic wrote: AOC leading Pelosi? Hardly. Look at what's getting passed legislatively and by whom. I suspect that narrative is being pushed by those with a vested interest in seeing the Democratic party split and fight amongst themselves; the media certainly keeps this theme of "The Squad vs Everyone" up because anything involving AOC means clicks. But, reality?
I do agree that AOC (and the Justice Dems, which I've mentioned before in discussions on AOC) are poison for the party. She's made some good points in a few Congressional hearings, but she's done nothing to warrant the extensive media coverage she's gotten. I think it makes her seem like she has more power than she really has, and it distorts what's really happening with legislation and Democratic leadership on the hill.
Have to agree with you on the Justice Dems. That Chakrabarti guy that AOC had as her CoS was a straight up Nazi and didn't even bother to hide the fact. That is the Sanders wing of the party and it will split it I believe. He has garnered a lot of college student support because he says what they are being taught.
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15 Jan 2020 10:13 #7
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Thanks FH, and good point about Sanders. He hasn't done much legislatively, and I struggle to understand why he's even as popular as he is. I get that promising free shit is exciting, and a draw to those who don't consider the consequences on our economy, but he's not the champion of the people that he tries to make himself out to be.
Of concern to me is the younger demographic and their views on politics. They are worth keeping an eye on.
Of concern to me is the younger demographic and their views on politics. They are worth keeping an eye on.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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15 Jan 2020 14:26 #8
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Luckily younger voters seldom bother to take the time to actually vote. They have more important things to do. And in so many states, the vote for POTUS is meaningless, like in Colorado.
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15 Jan 2020 14:39 #9
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Why is it lucky that many young people don't vote? Do you not wish them to have a voice in their future and how the country is run? Please explain.
I agree that in many states the vote for President is meaningless. That's a reason to get rid of the Electoral College, so that we don't have terrible Presidents like Trump and W.
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FredHayek wrote: Luckily younger voters seldom bother to take the time to actually vote. They have more important things to do. And in so many states, the vote for POTUS is meaningless, like in Colorado.
Why is it lucky that many young people don't vote? Do you not wish them to have a voice in their future and how the country is run? Please explain.
I agree that in many states the vote for President is meaningless. That's a reason to get rid of the Electoral College, so that we don't have terrible Presidents like Trump and W.
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15 Jan 2020 14:50 #10
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And Clinton and Obama...
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