Bernie is on Top!

22 Jan 2020 19:05 #1 by Rick
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I really didn’t think the old commie had a chance in hell but now he has taken the lead in the latest cnn national poll.

Let’s look at the demographics that would be fired up to vote for this guy ...

I can see young people who want all the free stuff and are eager for taxpayers to pony up for their tuition.

I see the TDS crowd who would rather see a socialist crash the economy than see Trump win.

Who else? Will rational women who don’t suffer from TDS vote for him even though they understand math and know how the economy works? I don’t see a lot of smart women being excited about this guy... what is his plan for making our lives better?

Blacks? Trump’s approval among all minorities has been rising and how is Bernie going to compete when black unemployment is at a record low?

The fact is, Bernie is a nightmare for establishment Dems who understand that crazy leftists are the minority in the party, and I think the majority understand that his ideas would wreck the economy and cause epic losses for a decade.

Y’all better hope for another heart attack (just enough to make him drop out but not kill him).

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23 Jan 2020 08:15 #2 by FredHayek
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He leads by 10 points in California and their primary is Super Tuesday just like Colorado. He is looking in very good shape as Biden continues to act punch drunk.

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24 Jan 2020 10:59 #3 by ScienceChic
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CNN? Something with more credibility would be much better to cite, ya know. :P

Biden has had a slim lead in most other polls that I've seen.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primar...cast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

But, just to play the devil's advocate, here's a perspective for you:
This Is How Bernie Wins
Sanders isn't the safe bet. But he's not a terrible bet, either.
by Jonathan V. Last
January 16, 2020

Over the weekend Bret Stephens had a smart column arguing that people should not discount the possibility that Bernie Sanders could win both the Democrat nomination and the presidency.

He’s right.

I mean, he’s right in the cosmic, moral sense because if we’re going to be honest with ourselves, Trump versus Sanders is the choice this country clearly deserves.

This isn’t to say that Sanders has the best shot to win the nomination. That’s clearly Joe Biden. But Sanders has the best shot, by far, to win both Iowa and New Hampshire and if he’s able to do that, then he will be in a one-on-one race with Biden and his odds of winning the nomination go way up, maybe even close to 50-50.

The second part is harder: Could Bernie beat Trump?

This is Joe Biden’s path to winning the White House:



Bernie’s path to 270 is slightly different.


Here’s Trump’s problem: How does the guy who expanded the government, blew up the national debt, and gave $28 billion in farm bailouts to subsidize the tariff war he started complain about Sanders not being a true-blue capitalist?


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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24 Jan 2020 17:57 #4 by Pony Soldier
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I notice both of those scenarios involve North Carolina going blue. Not sure that will be the case if either Biden or Sanders are nominated. Also PA, MN, WI and MI. I think Trump will win at least half of those.

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24 Jan 2020 18:58 #5 by Rick
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Bottom line is, if Bernie wins, we all lose (unless you qualify for the free stuff we get to pay for)

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24 Jan 2020 19:13 #6 by ramage
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With free college tuition why would anyone save for their children's education. Sanders and Warren are best exemplified as rewarding the grasshopper and screwing the ants. Please see Aesop's fables for reference.

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24 Jan 2020 19:37 - 24 Jan 2020 19:39 #7 by Rick
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ramage wrote: With free college tuition why would anyone save for their children's education. Sanders and Warren are best exemplified as rewarding the grasshopper and screwing the ants. Please see Aesop's fables for reference.

And to be "fair" (in the leftist utopia), wouldn't it need to be retroactive? If I just got done working my ass off for a decade to pay for my liberal arts degree, shouldn't I get paid back, especially since I can't find a job in my field?

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25 Jan 2020 08:20 #8 by FredHayek
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Joe Rogan, famous podcaster, likes Bernie Sanders. This could be huge. Rogan's audience is young males who aren't normally political. And his base isn't one to watch the news. What does he like about Sanders? He is consistent. So many other career politicians waver back and forth. Example, Joe Biden, used to be super tough on crime, but that is no longer popular in Democrat circles, so Joe has changed, but it feels hollow. I would guess if the polls change, so would Joe.

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