Taibbi's tale comes TRUE

10 Feb 2020 08:53 #11 by Pony Soldier

ScienceChic wrote:
So, supposedly everything is good in Ukraine. Trump, Pence, and Pompeo have met with Zelensky, we finally sent aid in September.

So why are we continuing to hold up aid? Things that make you go hmmmm...


Unnamed sources, Buzzfeed. Not going to buy this unless I read it somewhere else.

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10 Feb 2020 09:09 #12 by Blazer Bob
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Pony soldier, speaking of unnamed sources, I heard from a unnamed source that Biden misspoke. He meant to say Buffalo soldier because as a good friend of William Byrd he held a secret membership in the KKK.

Pony Soldier wrote:

ScienceChic wrote:
So, supposedly everything is good in Ukraine. Trump, Pence, and Pompeo have met with Zelensky, we finally sent aid in September.

So why are we continuing to hold up aid? Things that make you go hmmmm...


Unnamed sources, Buzzfeed. Not going to buy this unless I read it somewhere else.

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10 Feb 2020 10:23 #13 by homeagain
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Pony Soldier wrote: "He asked a foreign country to interfere in our elections"


NO HE DIDN'T! He asked them to look into corruption - obvious corruption on the part of a candidate. It was corruption that occurred in 2014.... It had nothing to do with elections. The only way you can make the argument that he was asking them to interfere in our elections is to say that you know what he was thinking at the time. That is neither what he said, nor what was done. Please stop with the false accusations and false narratives.

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AHEM.....because the WIKIPEDIA link is extremely long..I did not post it...YOUR assertion is
WITHOUT merit. There is an extremely detailed timeline on this fubar...IF you take the time to do the research.

THIS speaks to the withholding of funds...and it is NOT from Buzzfeed...DO THE RESEARCH

www.npr.org/2019/11/27/783487901/the-hol...om-impeachment-probe

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10 Feb 2020 11:03 #14 by Pony Soldier
I've done my research. Wikipedia does not qualify as research. The NPR article shows that the first hold on aid was July 3rd, well after the Biden braggart and blowhard speech in 2018. How does this in any way dispute what I said?

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10 Feb 2020 11:13 #15 by homeagain
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Pony Soldier wrote: I've done my research. Wikipedia does not qualify as research. The NPR article shows that the first hold on aid was July 3rd, well after the Biden braggart and blowhard speech in 2018. How does this in any way dispute what I said?


Sept. 11: The hold is lifted on the Ukraine assistance, 85 days after the Pentagon announced that aid had become available. That leaves only 19 days to obligate that funding.

Sept. 30: End of the fiscal year. According to OMB's Sandy, $35 million in funds do not get spent in time to meet the deadline. Congress includes that same amount in a continuing resolution to ensure the aid reaches Ukraine.

this issue was releasing funds in a timely fashion....NOT
sorry....history books are going to reflect MUCH of what Wikipedia wrote....see my student
teacher thread.

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10 Feb 2020 11:20 - 10 Feb 2020 11:30 #16 by Pony Soldier
Still does not contradict anything I wrote, and I'll pass on your Wikipedia post. I'll wait on the actual investigation, the first one BTW, of the Bidens and see what comes out of that. If there's something there, would Trump still be viewed as pursuing them for political gain? What would be the gain? Biden had no chance to get the nomination. He's senile.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-...department-barr-says

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10 Feb 2020 11:48 #17 by homeagain
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Pony Soldier wrote: Still does not contradict anything I wrote, and I'll pass on your Wikipedia post. I'll wait on the actual investigation, the first one BTW, of the Bidens and see what comes out of that. If there's something there, would Trump still be viewed as pursuing them for political gain? What would be the gain? Biden had no chance to get the nomination. He's senile.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-...department-barr-says


Donald Trump

Before this scandal came to light, U.S. President Donald Trump indicated he would accept foreign intelligence on his political rivals. In June 2019, Trump was interviewed by George Stephanopoulos, who asked: "If foreigners, if Russia, if China, if someone else offers you information on an opponent, should they accept it or should they call the FBI?" Trump responded: "I think maybe you do both. I think you might want to listen. I don't. There's nothing wrong with listening. If somebody called from a country—Norway—we have information on your opponent. Oh. I think I'd want to hear it."[63] After Trump said this, the chair of the Federal Election Commission, Ellen Weintraub, reminded Americans that according to federal law: "It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election."[64] Previously in July 2016, while Trump was still a candidate in the 2016 United States presidential election, he made a request: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing" from fellow presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's email server.[65][66]

THIS IS THE PROBLEM......AND THE COLLECTIVE IS CONVENIENTLY IGNORING IT. It is
a reflection of a mindset that has divided this country....NO WRONG DOING(WTF)...

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10 Feb 2020 12:45 #18 by Pony Soldier
Okay, then tell me what he "got" from Ukraine.

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