NORMAL is not in the lexicon

14 Apr 2020 11:33 #31 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote: It must really suck to keep having to twist the words Trump says so that you can rationalize your support of him. I'm so sorry.


Actually it is funny after Democrats defended President Obama on his phone and pen comment about executive orders now decide a uber powerful chief executive is a bad thing. I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored, right? I would love it if an independent won the presidency. Then you would see the members of the legislature hopefully take powers back from the POTUS that they wrongly gave to him/her. Right now the executive branch is way too powerful. The judicial and legislative branches really need to wrestle back more. Otherwise the tripod doesn't balance.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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14 Apr 2020 12:31 #32 by Pony Soldier
I agree with that 100% Fred. Be it Trump or Obama, the chief executive has WAY too much power. We weren’t set up that way.

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14 Apr 2020 13:08 #33 by homeagain
SO-O-O, perhaps this event is exposing the issues and the fourth turning will correct them..?

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14 Apr 2020 15:10 #34 by ramage
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You beg the question WHY does the executive branch have so much power. I would opine that Congress granted the Executive powers because they could not or would not fulfill their Constitutional role. The War Powers Act of 1973 was supposed to curtail the Presidential ability to wage war but it quickly became a rubber stamp of whatever the President did. Congress allowed every AUMF (Authorization of Use of Military Force) asked for by all Presidents. The National Emergencies Act followed in 1976, again Congress abrogated its responsibilities to the Executive.
To me the worst is the fact that Congress cannot or will not pass a budget, balanced or otherwise, instead Continuing Resolutions are used to fund the government,

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14 Apr 2020 15:21 #35 by Blazer Bob

homeagain wrote: SO-O-O, perhaps this event is exposing the issues and the fourth turning will correct them..?


No, that is not it.

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15 Apr 2020 09:25 #36 by FredHayek

homeagain wrote: SO-O-O, perhaps this event is exposing the issues and the fourth turning will correct them..?

Actually stripping powers from the executive branch would be considered a regression back to the original US Constitution.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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15 Apr 2020 15:23 #37 by ramage
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Fred,
This is where Congress has to step up. As I pointed out Congress granted the Executive these powers.
Once upon a time in a land far, far away (U.S.A.) there was a Congress in which the Appropriations Committee had as follows,( from Appropriations.house.gov)
The Appropriations Committee has one of the broadest jurisdictions of any committee in Congress. It is responsible for appropriating funding for most of the functions of the federal government. Under Rule X of the Rules of the House, the Committee on Appropriations' jurisdiction is defined as "(1) Appropriation of the revenue for the support of the Government. (2) Rescissions of appropriations contained in appropriations Acts. (3) Transfers of unexpected balances. (4) Bills and joint resolutions reported by other committees that provide new entitlement authority as defined in section 3(9) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 and referred to the committee under clause 4(a)(2)."

In the 116th Congress, the Appropriations Committee has 12 subcommittees that each have jurisdiction over a specific part of the federal government. A list of subcommittees with the agencies under their jurisdiction is here."

In a nutshell, proposed a budget for the Federal government.

. Currently there are no Representatives from Colorado on the committee.

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15 Apr 2020 17:03 #38 by FredHayek
Great point earlier about the nation running on continuing resolutions rather than actual budgets. It is like America bounces from one crisis to another.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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17 Apr 2020 07:24 #39 by homeagain
Been broken for a very long time...like an old"beater" U R just trying to nurse along'cause
U can't afford another car....except NOW,it finally just won't run.....requiring a CHANGE of vehicle.
(doesn't matter if U can afford it,U walk or hitch or find another vehicle).....we are finding ANOTHER vehicle....because it is needed.

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