In defense of looting

29 Aug 2020 15:58 #1 by Blazer Bob
First I thought this is the Onion. Then I thought it could be a right wing conspiracy so I checked on Amazon and NPR.
It appears to be the real deal.

Looting Goes Mainstream on NPR
Power LinePower Lineby Steven Hayward

With lawlessness and organized looting threatening to take down Joe Biden (which is why I’ve been calling the riots “spontaneous pro-Trump rallies”—have they filed their in-kind contribution reports with the FEC by the way?), we’ve seen leading Democrats like AOC say looting is just desperate people trying to get the necessities.

feeds.powerlineblog.com/~r/powerlineblog...ainstream-on-npr.php

www.amazon.com/Defense-Looting-Riotous-H...=8-3#customerReviews

www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/...n-defense-of-looting

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29 Aug 2020 20:09 #2 by ScienceChic
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I just got done reading that article and I have to say it was the biggest load of bullsh** I've read in a looonnnngg time. That author is so far out of touch with reality it's laughable, and shame on that interviewer for not pushing back with tougher questions.

[Looting] also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that's unjust.

No, it exemplifies materialism because they're often stealing things they don't need to simply survive, but luxuries like TVs and electronics. Not only that, earning what you wish to purchase from someone else who worked to create something you want is as old a system as human civilization. Capitalism isn't perfect, no system is, but working to earn your keep and paying others for the fruits of their labor is what's fair.

Importantly, I think especially when it's in the context of a Black uprising like the one we're living through now, it also attacks the history of whiteness and white supremacy. The very basis of property in the U.S. is derived through whiteness and through Black oppression, through the history of slavery and settler domination of the country. Looting strikes at the heart of property, of whiteness and of the police.

LOL, because non-Caucasians don't own any property or items to steal? If this were truly the case, then rioters and looters wouldn't also be burning down black communities, which they are, and harming the livelihood of those whom they purport to support with their rioting and looting. Idiot.

NPR: During recent riots, a sentiment I heard a lot was that looters in cities like Minneapolis were hurting their own cause by destroying small businesses in their own neighborhoods, stores owned by immigrants and people of color. What would you say to people who make that argument?

But looters and rioters don't attack private homes.

Of course they don't, they'd get shot by the homeowners. Duh.

A fascinating question everyone should be asking themselves is why are riots not happening in other cities? And no, the argument that it's only in Democratic-led cities doesn't wash, because no California cities are having any of these problems.

NPR: What would you say to people who are concerned about essential places like grocery stores or pharmacies being attacked in those communities?

When it comes to small business, family owned business or locally owned business, they are no more likely to provide worker protections. They are no more likely to have to provide good stuff for the community than big businesses. It's actually a Republican myth that has, over the last 20 years, really crawled into even leftist discourse: that the small business owner must be respected, that the small business owner creates jobs and is part of the community. But that's actually a right-wing myth.

GTFO. This woman has no clue. As a small business owner, I see this happening every day. Our small businesses and nonprofits in unincorporated Jeffco, Clear Creek County, and Park County are who give the most back. They support families in need, they sponsor community events, they hold fundraisers for those who are struggling, have been diagnosed with cancer, or killed in the line of duty. They donate items or services for fundraisers all the time. Since we have few "big businesses' in the area, they do indeed provide the most jobs, and they provide the worker protections that are required by law (or word gets around that they aren't and people stop patronizing them, or turn them in to the authorities).

Seriously, don't waste your time reading this tripe. It's from the fantasy land of a far-left ideologue who's obviously never visited any small towns in America and is trying to make an argument devoid of facts for a reality she wants to exist, not one that does.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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29 Aug 2020 20:21 #3 by Blazer Bob
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Of course it is BS. So ask yourself why NPR put her on? Ask yourself why the interviewer did not push back.

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29 Aug 2020 20:29 #4 by ScienceChic
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I don't know why the interviewer didn't, they usually do a more thorough job.

NPR tries hard to be balanced. They invite people from both sides of the aisle on for interviews, and I'm guessing this author was no exception. If they didn't read her book beforehand, I hope this is a lesson to do a better job vetting their guests because she didn't deserve this platform. NPR needs to have higher standards than FOX.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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29 Aug 2020 22:00 - 29 Aug 2020 22:01 #5 by Rick
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:cheersbeer: :TYspin:

ScienceChic wrote: I just got done reading that article and I have to say it was the biggest load of bullsh** I've read in a looonnnngg time. That author is so far out of touch with reality it's laughable, and shame on that interviewer for not pushing back with tougher questions.

[Looting] also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that's unjust.

No, it exemplifies materialism because they're often stealing things they don't need to simply survive, but luxuries like TVs and electronics. Not only that, earning what you wish to purchase from someone else who worked to create something you want is as old a system as human civilization. Capitalism isn't perfect, no system is, but working to earn your keep and paying others for the fruits of their labor is what's fair.

Importantly, I think especially when it's in the context of a Black uprising like the one we're living through now, it also attacks the history of whiteness and white supremacy. The very basis of property in the U.S. is derived through whiteness and through Black oppression, through the history of slavery and settler domination of the country. Looting strikes at the heart of property, of whiteness and of the police.

LOL, because non-Caucasians don't own any property or items to steal? If this were truly the case, then rioters and looters wouldn't also be burning down black communities, which they are, and harming the livelihood of those whom they purport to support with their rioting and looting. Idiot.

NPR: During recent riots, a sentiment I heard a lot was that looters in cities like Minneapolis were hurting their own cause by destroying small businesses in their own neighborhoods, stores owned by immigrants and people of color. What would you say to people who make that argument?

But looters and rioters don't attack private homes.

Of course they don't, they'd get shot by the homeowners. Duh.

A fascinating question everyone should be asking themselves is why are riots not happening in other cities? And no, the argument that it's only in Democratic-led cities doesn't wash, because no California cities are having any of these problems.

NPR: What would you say to people who are concerned about essential places like grocery stores or pharmacies being attacked in those communities?

When it comes to small business, family owned business or locally owned business, they are no more likely to provide worker protections. They are no more likely to have to provide good stuff for the community than big businesses. It's actually a Republican myth that has, over the last 20 years, really crawled into even leftist discourse: that the small business owner must be respected, that the small business owner creates jobs and is part of the community. But that's actually a right-wing myth.

GTFO. This woman has no clue. As a small business owner, I see this happening every day. Our small businesses and nonprofits in unincorporated Jeffco, Clear Creek County, and Park County are who give the most back. They support families in need, they sponsor community events, they hold fundraisers for those who are struggling, have been diagnosed with cancer, or killed in the line of duty. They donate items or services for fundraisers all the time. Since we have few "big businesses' in the area, they do indeed provide the most jobs, and they provide the worker protections that are required by law (or word gets around that they aren't and people stop patronizing them, or turn them in to the authorities).

Seriously, don't waste your time reading this tripe. It's from the fantasy land of a far-left ideologue who's obviously never visited any small towns in America and is trying to make an argument devoid of facts for a reality she wants to exist, not one that does.

:cheersbeer::TYspin: :flag:

Sometimes I try to not like you SC, so I can say things I shouldn’t. Then you pull stuff like this and the frustration goes away, for a time anyway. :cheer: I’m not trying to kiss your ass and I think you know that, I just respect the fact that you can not only see something wrong that the right will pounce on, but you can also CLEARLY describe the issue in the tone that is required. As a thank you for being so rare, I just want you to know that I’d like to do the same on my side whenever I see/hear/read something being incorrectly characterized or other things I should be speaking out against. I’m pretty sure if we all acknowledged the flaws in our armies, we’d have a lot less disagreement and a bit more understanding of our actual belief systems.

But, if you want me to defend Trump’s every remark, I’m sorry but that is who he is and I know well who he is. If you’ll look back to before Trump won the primary I said he was my last choice because I thought he’d bring down the party. Well he didn’t and now his NY asshole way of talking doesn’t matter to me because he’s done more for this party than all the Rs since Reagan. But I digress. Bottom line is I’ll look critically at his policies and be happy to point out those flaws, as well as any other Republican or policies.

One last thing SC, the other reason I like this post so much is because I like it best when you say what’s on your mind and less of what is on others minds. Let’s me get to know who you are more and that’s what’s missing with this relatively new way of communication.

Ok then, hopefully that non ass kissing diatribe made up a little ground to counter my assholedness as of late. Hope you’re having a good night.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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30 Aug 2020 18:06 #6 by FredHayek
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Sometimes you have to let the wacky viewpoint get fully exposed, and one way to do that is let them go on and hang themselves.
I hope NPR was thinking that way.
Small business owners are some of the hardest working people I own. Working 80 hour weeks and many times they don't get paid if their business doesn't make a profit that week. And so many times, if they do make money, they just reinvest it back into the business. So sad to see businesses like that, looted and or burned.
And often destroyed by people who have little real life experience themselves, who haven't had to make payroll. Who haven't risked their homes investing in their dreams.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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31 Aug 2020 06:05 #7 by Pony Soldier
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FredHayek wrote: Small business owners are some of the hardest working people I own.


Uhm....

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31 Aug 2020 11:24 #8 by FredHayek
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Oops! :oregonwine: I only own a few small business owners.

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04 Sep 2020 09:19 #9 by Blazer Bob
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National Public Radio is scrambling to do damage control this week after it promoted the views of a dangerously ignorant pro-looting activist who is also a gigantic anti-Semite.

www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/npr-r...nti-semite?_amp=true

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