President Trump and First Lady Melania Have Covid-19

02 Oct 2020 10:00 #1 by FredHayek
Donald is saying it is a mild case for him. Anyone think this is a hoax? I have already seen some comments on Twitter thinking this is what a reality show president would do.

I don't think so. Anyone in the public like him is just more likely to get it, he has contact with so many more people than most Americans.

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03 Oct 2020 10:18 #2 by FredHayek
The POTUS is now at Walter Reed. Probably the Secret Service just trying to be as safe as possible. Senator Biden has stopped running negative Trump ads while the president is in the hospital.

Donald Trump was seen walking under his own power to Marine One, so it appears to be a mild case right now.

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03 Oct 2020 20:18 #3 by ScienceChic
It is not a hoax and I fervently hope he, and all those who've now been diagnosed positive following the super-spreader event announcing the Supreme Court nominee, recover fully. Was it reckless of the White House staff to hold unsafe events that violated CDC guidelines, and to have the fundraising banquet Thursday night when Hope Hicks had already tested positive? Absolutely. But, given how this administration has treated this virus, downplaying its seriousness, refusing to wear masks, contradicting scientists on its COVID Task Force, etc it's not surprising in the least. I simply hope that everyone survives who was exposed/becomes positive, and I hope this administration starts taking this virus more seriously.

The fact that he's been administered remdesivir twice and a maximum dose of Regeneron, an experimental 2-monoclonal antibody therapeutic still in clinical trials (and normally only given in cases of compassion outside of clinical trials as a hail mary), is highly concerning. He's a high-risk case with co-morbidities given his age and obesity.


Former Vice President Biden is a decent man.
Biden campaign pulls down attack ads as Trump departs White House for hospital
Trump campaign says it will not reciprocate and pause anti-Biden ads: CNN
AP News via Marketwatch | October 2, 2020


Dashboard to track the POTUS COVID-19 outbreak via @bhrenton et al

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03 Oct 2020 20:50 #4 by ramage
SC,
It is good to see that you think that have inside information as regarding President Trump"s treatment. If you cannot cite an individual , with hs/her name, you are are rumor monger or worse.
We, physicians, do not disclose the medical treatment of our patients without their approval.
So, put up or shut up, who told you of his therapeutic regimen. "Highly placed", anonymous sources do not make the cut. I expect better of you, in that you hold yourself out to be a scientist.

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03 Oct 2020 21:59 #5 by ScienceChic
ramage, because I have thick skin and am not any other member here, your post will remain. Had you spoken this way to any other member of MMT, know that your comment above would've been moved to The Ring, and if it was a continued pattern, your posting privileges would be removed. There is no call to be so combative and rude in regards to what I wrote. A simple Google search you can do yourself will provide the information you are looking for, or you can read the sources I posted above.

In case those don't cut it for you, here's the OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE PRESS RELEASES from President Trump's physician:
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www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/...ts-physician-100320/

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04 Oct 2020 07:56 #6 by ramage
Let's examine the spin you put on the notification from Sean Conley, D.O., the President's physician.

Conley: "He received a single 8 gram dose of the Regeneron cocktail"

SC: " a maximum dose of Regeneron, an experimental 2-monoclonal antibody therapeutic still in clinical trials (and normally only given in cases of compassion outside of clinical trials as a hail mary), is highly concerning..."

I know that my internet skills are rudimentary but a simple search did not provide the source of your comment. Can you help by providing the source, since you must have it?

Here is what I found: from seekingalpha.com 9/29/20

'Results are from the first 275 participants with confirmed COVID-19 infection who were randomized 1:1:1 to receive either a one-time infusion of 8 gm of REGN-COV2 (high dose), 2.4 gm (low dose) or placebo. Patients were classified as seropositive (measurable SARS-CoV-2 antibodies) (45%), seronegative (no measurable antibodies) (41%) or other (unclear or unknown serology status) (14%).

In that, President Trump is 6'3" tall and weighs 244 lbs (June, 2020 physical exam) . It would be folly to administer a low-dose to him. Medications are given on the basis of body mass, as I am sure you know.

If this is a "hail mary" then it ranks with Tim Tebow's pass to Thomas in the playoff game against Pittsburgh in the 2010-2011 season, or if you like, and perhaps a better choice, Eli Manning's pass to win the Super Bowl.
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04 Oct 2020 10:29 #7 by FredHayek
I think the Secret Service is just being overly cautious. They did offer to confine President Trump to his executive bedroom, but Donald decided he would be more comfortable at Walter Reed. And probably safer to have him taken care of by health professionals instead of the ordinary White House staff.

So far from the publicity shots, he looks OK. Up, dressed, and healthy.

Eisenhower had a heart attack in office and spent a few weeks in the hospital. I think he never officially made Nixon president. Sort of surprising considering the Cold War was going on at the time. I doubt President Trump will cede power for a few days to Mike Pence.

There are some rumors that Trump is faking this to get the sympathy vote, but I can't see the man intentionally making himself look weak. Plus I believe if it was faked, people would find out quickly.

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04 Oct 2020 12:19 #8 by ramage
Fred,
There is an article in the American Thinker, by Brian Joondeph, M.D. , a Denver-are retinal surgeon, which provides an explanation (probable) as to the rational behind President Trump's hospitalization.

www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/10...in_the_hospital.html

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04 Oct 2020 13:34 #9 by homeagain
www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-brian-joondeph-2r5md

I'm sorry, it's a blog and HE IS AN OPHTHALMOLOGIST
The expertise to diagnosis THIS specific issue( the king's) is questionable,at best.

NOTICE reviews....

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04 Oct 2020 13:36 #10 by homeagain
homeagain wrote: science.sciencemag.org/content/early/202...science.abe2813.full

AUTHOR DR. ERIC TOPOL....extremely knowledgeable,authored (have read couple of his books)and
his synopsis of HEART complications (unintended)associated with COVID 19

At least one in five....or MORE if preexisting conditions are present.


THIS factor could be of concern in dosing of meds.....

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