A Question For Science Chic

04 Dec 2020 07:46 #1 by Rick
Hey SC, hope you're doing well and had a great Thanksgiving. I've stayed away from here because I know how futile it is trying to change opinions or open eyes to things that may dismantle the majority media narrative that this election was extremely transparent and honest with no evidence of voter/election fraud.

SC, I've had my battles with you in the past and we rarely agree on much, but I think you're the only person on this board who leans left that can stay on topic and not deflect it away. I think you are an intelligent person that wants many of the same things many of us on the right also want, we just have different ideas on how to reach those collective goals. I know you love this country as I do and you believe in fairness, at least that is my belief. All I'm asking is that you watch this video with an open mind and tell me if you see nothing wrong here and if this is something that you feels requires a full investigation. I'm not going to battle with you over this, I just ask that you take the time to watch it and explain what you think is happening here.


The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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04 Dec 2020 12:07 #2 by Rick
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Maybe it's acceptable to the rest of you that suitcases full of ballets get pulled out from under a table when the counting of votes was supposedly stopped. This is getting to the point where we really we be ruled by Idiocracy. Nothing to see here sheeple, please go back to your pre-programmed lives.

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04 Dec 2020 13:08 - 04 Dec 2020 13:11 #3 by homeagain
U addressed the topic to SC....since she appears busy,I will give U my view.

every heard of pixels? First time I heard the word was in a movie called "The RISING SUN "..a forensic IT
person was examining a murder scene video and called attention to some small discrepancies(so small
they could have been overlooked) THIS WAS 1993. IF it can be proven that film is NOT DOCTORED,
then'' Huston we have a problem''. Forensics is required for me to change me mind.

iMAGES ARE NOT CLEAR ENOUGH TO DECIPHER THE TIMECLOCK, timing can be changed,images can be inserted or deleted.....MANY factors to alter a "narrative"

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04 Dec 2020 13:50 #4 by ScienceChic
Thank you Rick, I did have a good Thanksgiving, and I hope your family did as well.

I watched the video, and it appears that the time stamp says November 3, which is the day of the election. What I don't hear in that video is any evidence of voter fraud. I don't understand why they asked everyone to leave, and appeared to keep counting, but this would've been the original counting of the ballots, correct? So if there was a discrepancy between the initial machine and the audit conducted by manual hand-count, then I would agree that there is something wrong. However, the hand tabulation matched the results of the machine count and was certified by the [Republican] Secretary of State. I have yet to see any evidence of ballot manipulation removing votes for Trump or adding votes for Biden.

I highly distrust YouTube videos as evidence of anything. Videos can easily be manipulated and lack context. For example, one I posted about in an earlier thread was the Trump parade in San Antonio following the Biden campaign bus that appeared to show a Trump supporter's vehicle striking a vehicle of a member of Biden's team following the team bus - it went viral on social media and there was outrage galore. However, upon examination of all the evidence, the local police department stated that, in fact, the Biden team member's vehicle was at fault, not the Trump supporter. That video that went viral showed no such thing, and yet it was accepted as "fact" by Biden supporters. The video of George Floyd dying was horrific and rightly sparked calls for changes in police procedure, but it also didn't even tell the whole story. Sorry, but my standards are way higher than a clip like this will ever meet.

The only video I accept (almost) unconditionally is raw, unedited videos of court hearings, congressional hearings, and community meetings. No splicing, no editorial by others, just the speakers heard themselves. I've seen far too much manipulation to trust otherwise.

Votes are being audited in Georgia – but don’t call it a recount
The audit is meant to ensure that voting machines worked correctly, and was not prompted by allegations of fraud. State officials don't expect that the 14,000-vote margin favoring President-elect Joe Biden over President Donald Trump will change significantly.
By Christina Cassidy Associated Press, posted on Christian Science Monitor | November 13, 2020

Georgia says it’s going to be tallying – by hand – nearly 5 million ballots that were cast in its very close presidential election on Nov. 3. But is it a recount? An “audit”? And why are they doing it?

Is this an official recount?
No. State election officials have said this is not a recount, rather a post-election audit.

The main difference between the two: A recount is typically tied to determining a winner when there's a close margin in an election, whereas post-election audits are routine and used by states to ensure that equipment and procedures counting the vote all worked properly.

In Georgia, for instance, a recount is conducted using the same scanners that read and tallied the unofficial results already released. The audit is being done by hand.

And recounts in Georgia generally take place after election results are certified by the state. That hasn’t happened yet. Once an election is certified, a trailing candidate can request a recount if the margin is less than 0.5 percentage points. Mr. Biden currently leads by 0.28 percentage points, so Mr. Trump could still request a recount later.

Georgia officials certify election results showing Biden win
By KATE BRUMBACK, AP News | November 20, 2020

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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04 Dec 2020 14:12 #5 by ScienceChic
Fact Check: Video Doesn't Show Election Fraud In Georgia
By: Saranac Hale Spencer, Georgia Public Boradcasting (GPB) | December 3, 2020

A two-and-a-half-minute video showing an election worker conducting an ordinary part of the recount process in Gwinnett County, Georgia, has been spun into false claims of fraud.

This is just the most recent example in a surge of falsehoods aimed at undermining the results of the 2020 election.

“It has all gone too far. All of it,” Gabriel Sterling, who oversees Georgia’s voting system, said at a press conference on Dec. 1 in which he called on President Donald Trump and other elected officials to condemn violent rhetoric aimed at election workers. “A 20-something tech in Gwinnett County today has death threats and a noose put out today saying he should be hung for treason. … It has to stop,” Sterling said.

A recount requested by the Trump campaign had started about a week before, on Nov. 24. It was scheduled to end Dec. 2.

That recount was the second review of Georgia’s election outcome. The first review was a full hand-count audit of paper ballots that was conducted under a new state law and was completed on Nov. 19. The audit confirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s win, and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, certified the results of the state’s election.

After the results were certified, the Trump campaign was able to request the machine recount.

There were no substantial changes following the audit, either.

Live updates | Fulton County Board of Elections addresses State Farm Arena video
Author: 11Alive Staff | Published: 7:31 AM EST December 4, 2020

ATLANTA — Georgia's recount is, but for a hiccup in Fulton County, just about complete - and increasingly that formality is taking a backseat to the political and legal drama as President Trump's advocates continue down a path of attempting to invalidate the election.

The state's deadline to re-certify results is today. Once that is done, it will mark the official end of Georgia's election process, at least as far as the responsibilities of the state apparatus goes.

10:30 a.m. | Fulton County's Board of Elections during their meeting discussed the State Farm Video at length, and you can watch that discussion above. The county voted to certify its election results 3-2.

9:50 a.m. | Fulton Elections Director Rick Barron says death threats have been sent to the supervisor who was at State Farm Arena on election night, as well as her mother.

Fulton County elections board narrowly recertifies recount results in 3-2 vote
Author: Joe Ripley | Published: 2:31 PM EST December 4, 2020

Fact Check: Video From Georgia Does NOT Show Suitcases Filled With Ballots Suspiciously Pulled From Under A Table; Poll Watchers Were NOT Told To Leave
Dec 3, 2020 by: Alan Duke

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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04 Dec 2020 14:53 #6 by Pony Soldier
Since we're doing Q&A with SC, I'd like to jump in with one. I am 99.9% sure this is BS, but can you take a look and give your take?

healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12...emale-sterilization/

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05 Dec 2020 09:08 #7 by Rick
Replied by Rick on topic A Question For Science Chic
Bottom line is that everyone conveniently ignores is that one second hand whistleblower was adequate enough to impeach Trumps but hundreds of sworn affidavits claiming election fraud and wrongdoing should be ignored. It's just like "believe all women", unless the women are accusing a Democrat. Stay in your dream worlds of hypocrisy.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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05 Dec 2020 10:11 #8 by homeagain

Pony Soldier wrote: Since we're doing Q&A with SC, I'd like to jump in with one. I am 99.9% sure this is BS, but can you take a look and give your take?

healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12...emale-sterilization/



I am not SC..BUT,U can do your own research, instead of bothering SC....altho she has the expertise,
HERE IS A LINK U COULD HAVE RESEARCHED......

www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-vaccine-female-sterilization/

DEBUNKED and decidedly questionable of the source. .....(like always, the hard lifting falls on the female)

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05 Dec 2020 13:05 #9 by hillfarmer
Thank you, Science Chic for a thoughtful and well written reply. I also was impressed by the initial thoughtfulness Rick put into his inquiry. I have no doubt that there were a few shenanigans with voting in some area, as there probably are each time, but all of these are small potatoes and usually corrected in time by the election judges and poll watchers. As literally dozens of Republican (and Democrat) judges have ruled, there is no evidence of voter fraud on a scale which could have changed the election. With the exception of one small case, Trump and his lawyers have produced scant evidence of fraud and no evidence of malfeasance. So far all the claims have proven to either be either insignificant, or worse, lies. When the Attorney General, and a noted Trump sycophant, has looked at the evidence and declared there is nothing proving fraud, it puts an exclamation point on the fact that these claims are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

I am glad to live in a country where the officials in all these jurisdictions, whether they be election officials or members of the judiciary, support the rule of law. It has often taken great fortitude to dispassionately examine the evidence and make rulings based on law and fact - even in the face of death threats. I applaud what they have been willing to do.

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05 Dec 2020 14:18 #10 by Pony Soldier

homeagain wrote:

Pony Soldier wrote: Since we're doing Q&A with SC, I'd like to jump in with one. I am 99.9% sure this is BS, but can you take a look and give your take?

healthandmoneynews.wordpress.com/2020/12...emale-sterilization/



I am not SC..BUT,U can do your own research, instead of bothering SC....altho she has the expertise,
HERE IS A LINK U COULD HAVE RESEARCHED......

www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-vaccine-female-sterilization/

DEBUNKED and decidedly questionable of the source. .....(like always, the hard lifting falls on the female)


First off, I trust snopes not in the least! They are not any kind of authority on anything. Secondly I will bother who ever I want to bother, especially since I seem to be so good at it. Third, I actually questioned the source and the validity of the article stating that I was 99.9% sure it was BS. As a father, I would prefer 5 nines...

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