We're talking about money, money,money......

homeagain wrote: HERE'S the reason the "rival" gun control group has put the $$$$ WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS......

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

THIS is obscene, 2012 and it is now 2021....the HOT BUTTON issue, a testimony to humans inability to take
action, in a reasonable and rational manner. I am ashamed of our species. WE are the virus,(THE MATRIX,
stated it most succinctly.)

Main article: Gun control after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting prompted renewed debate about gun control in the United States, including proposals for making the background-check system universal, and for new federal and state legislation banning the sale and manufacture of certain types of semi-automatic firearms and magazines with more than ten rounds of ammunition.[200]

Within hours of the shooting, a We the People petition was started asking the White House to "immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress,"[201][202] and the gun control advocacy group the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence reported that an avalanche of donations in the hours after the shooting caused its website to crash.[203] Five days later, President Obama announced that he would make gun control a "central issue" of his second term,[204] and he created a gun violence task force, to be headed by Vice President Joe Biden.[205] On January 16, 2013, Obama signed 23 executive orders and proposed 12 congressional actions regarding gun control.[206] His proposals included universal background checks on firearms purchases, an assault weapons ban, and a high-capacity magazine ban limiting capacity to 10 cartridges.[207][208]

On December 21, 2012, the National Rifle Association's Wayne LaPierre said gun-free school zones attract killers and that another gun ban would not protect Americans. He called on Congress to appropriate funds to hire armed police officers for every American school and announced that the NRA would create the National School Shield Emergency Response Program to help.[209] After LaPierre's press conference, the Brady Campaign asked for donations to support its gun control advocacy and asked NRA members "who believe like we do, that we are better than this" to join its campaign.[210] On January 8, 2013, former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot and injured in a 2011 shooting in Tucson, launched the gun control group Americans for Responsible Solutions, with a specific aim of matching or exceeding the fundraising capabilities of the NRA and similar groups.[211]

On January 16, 2013, New York became the first U.S. state to act after the shooting when it enacted the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act.[212] On April 3, 2013, Connecticut General Assembly passed a 139-page[213] major gun-control bill with broad bipartisan support.[213] Governor Dannel P. Malloy signed the bill on the same day.[214] The bill requires universal background checks (background checks for all firearm purchases),[215] a high-capacity magazine ban banning the sale or purchase of ammunition magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition like those used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting,[216] created the first registry in the United States for dangerous-weapon offenders, and added over 100 types of gun to the state's assault weapons ban.[213] Pro-gun groups had rallied outside the Capitol to protest prior to the signing[213] and challenged it in court. Federal judge Alfred Covello ruled in January 2014, to uphold the law.[217]

On April 4, 2013, Maryland also enacted new restrictions to their existing gun laws.[218][219] Ten other states passed laws that relaxed gun restrictions.[220]

Legislation introduced in the first session of 113th Congress included the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013[221][222] and the Manchin-Toomey Amendment to expand background checks on gun purchases.[223][224] Both were defeated in the Senate on April 17, 2013.[225]

I do not have the time to cite all the most RECENT info....however, the simple fact that the bolded was
defeated,speaks volumes of how truly horrific humans R.....IF the multiple deaths of children under 12
y.o. can not be vindicated...WE,as a species, R DESPICABLE....AND the NRA has been "outed" as a
dysfunctional, deceitful,"deal with the devil" leader and org.

Per the FBI, less than 300 Americans are killed by rifles every year. Children? A small subset of those deaths are children. Children are much more likely to die by the hand of their parents than an AR-15. Thousands of children are killed by their parents every year.

There are 20 million AR-15's out there. And every time some politician tries to ban them, they create a line at the gun store as Americans line up to buy more. Before the AW ban, there were only 200,000 AR-15's. So President Clinton might actually have sold more rifles than Walmart.

He did do that with high capacity magazines. Before the magazine ban, shooters would buy a couple to go with their rifle or pistol, but after the attempt to ban them, people started stocking up, they went from $9 each to $100. So they were a great investment if you had stocked up. And when they became legal again, people would buy a hundred or more. The rule became, buy ten for every rifle you have, and five for every pistol. Magazines wear out over time, so you should have spares.

Once again you ignore the simple facts. “Assault Rifles” make up only a micro percentage of all murders.

(Sorry Fred, I was answering HA’s post, not yours)

Pony Soldier wrote: Once again you ignore the simple facts. “Assault Rifles” make up only a micro percentage of all murders.

Exactly. Thousands of people are killed by handguns because they are easy to conceal. So why do the anti-gun crowd obsess about "black rifles". It is like trying to prevent auto accidents by banning Ferrari's. Sure Ferraris are fast and dangerous but they kill relatively few people in car crashes.

HOW SOON we forget Las Vegas.....and the super stash of weapons found at the crime scene....

Actual numbers, less than 300 per year. These are FBI statistics. Las Vegas and school shootings are outlier events. We shouldn't strip the rights of millions of Americans on freak occurrences.

The FBI dropped the ball in the case of the Vegas shooter and also in the Parkland shooter. Maybe the FBI should be banned...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

SEE SECTIONS ON WEAPONRY AND PREPARATION......the weapons used were obscene in their ability
to do massive damage,death.

There was some very weird shit that happened in the run up to and in the investigation of that shooting. How did the hotel employees not notice that kind of arsenal being loaded into a room? Why did they hide the hotel employee that was a witness- even going so far as to fly him out of the country? There are an awful lot of things that don’t make sense with that shooting.

Denver Post had a piece today, with all the attention of events like Columbine and Boulder, the everyday shootings get ignored.
Your chances of dying in a event like Las Vegas are very tiny.