New Colorado Gun Laws

20 Apr 2021 09:10 #1 by FredHayek
Governor Polis signed two new gun bills into law. One requires guns to be locked up when not in use. This might prevent some children from accessing guns. And make it a little harder on burglars. Of course downside? It might make it harder for citizens to defend themselves from a home invasion. The other bill mandates that gun thefts must be reported a week after they happen. I don't know if this will do any good. It just adds reporting requirements to citizens and police.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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20 Apr 2021 09:44 #2 by homeagain

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20 Apr 2021 09:47 #3 by Wayne Harrison
About 30% of American adults even own guns. I don't know why they should dictate gun policy.

The NRA has only 5.5 million members, but (had) deep pockets for lawmakers who supported them.

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20 Apr 2021 19:57 #4 by Rick
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Wayne Harrison wrote: About 30% of American adults even own guns. I don't know why they should dictate gun policy.

The NRA has only 5.5 million members, but (had) deep pockets for lawmakers who supported them.

Who do you think should dictate gun policy... the people who have 24/7 armed protection?

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21 Apr 2021 10:28 #5 by Wayne Harrison
Certainly not the NRA.

Have you given any thought to WHY some people need 24/7 armed protection? Maybe that's why they're against everyone having a gun.

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21 Apr 2021 10:43 #6 by FredHayek
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Wayne Harrison wrote: About 30% of American adults even own guns. I don't know why they should dictate gun policy.

The NRA has only 5.5 million members, but (had) deep pockets for lawmakers who supported them.


Why would you endorse tyranny of the majority? 99% of gun owners are responsible people. You never see "NRA member" when you read about shootings. You do see it sometimes when they talk about a good guy with a gun stopping a shooting.

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22 Apr 2021 08:16 #7 by Wayne Harrison
I support protecting the majority, especially kids. The United States has a weakness when it comes to guns, at the expense of those kids. I thought the country would learn from all the school massacres, but it didn't. Apparently The Second Amendment trumps the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

In the 244-year history of the U.S., there has only been one time that citizens with guns were needed.

The Second Amendment, as interpreted today, is outdated and badly in need of amending, just as we have done with slavery and giving women the right to vote.

That 30% of Americans armed with guns could stop an armed invasion by another county's army, or overthrow the U.S. government, with all its firepower, is a fairy tale.

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22 Apr 2021 17:24 #8 by ramage
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Let's cut to the chase, Wayne. Do you want guns confiscated? Do you want guns locked in a government facility? Please tell me what you would like done to facilitate "protecting the majority, especially kids."

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22 Apr 2021 18:17 #9 by Rick
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Wayne Harrison wrote: Certainly not the NRA.

Have you given any thought to WHY some people need 24/7 armed protection? Maybe that's why they're against everyone having a gun.

So the answer is to make sure nobody has a gun except for the people who guard the people making gun laws? Where do you stand on gun rights? If I knew where you stood on this issue it would be helpful in this discussion.

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23 Apr 2021 09:52 #10 by Wayne Harrison
So paraphrase my answer into something I didn't say? That's not being honest, Rick.

I was thinking of celebrities who have armed guards because some crazy person who managed to get a gun anyway has decided to stalk them and kill them. But in a nation where the gun homicide rate is 25 times higher than that of other high-income countries, I can certainly understand the need for armed guards.

I'd start with universal background checks on all gun sales. Then, I'd close the Charleston loophole. Under federal law, gun purchases may move forward by default after three business days—even if a background check has not been completed. While 90% of federal background checks are completed in minutes, those that take longer than three business days are four times as likely to be denied.

I would close the gun-trafficking loophole that enables many gun sellers to evade the licensed dealer system allows unlicensed sellers to sell high volumes of guns without background checks. Some of these guns are later trafficked into other states and recovered at crime scenes. This loophole should be closed by statute or ATF regulation. States can also help prevent gun trafficking by requiring gun owners to report lost and stolen guns to law enforcement.

I would prohibit open carry, as some states already do. t is exploited by white supremacists and opposed by law enforcement and the public. Members of hate groups regularly openly carry guns in a show of intimidation.

I woud repeal Stand Your Ground laws. Under traditional self-defense law, a person can use force to defend themselves anywhere. If they’re outside their home, though, they can’t use force that is likely to kill or seriously injure someone if there’s a safe way to avoid it. Stand Your Ground laws allow people to shoot to kill in public even when they can safely walk away from the danger. These laws are associated with increases in homicides and injuries, and disproportionately impact communities of color.

Finally, I would amend the 2nd Amendment to make the "well-armed militia" more clear. I have no problems with gun owners who want to play soldier, dress up in military gear and hone their gun skills, as long as they are part of an accepted militia (like the National Guard).

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