If You Really Did Have Good Sources...

20 Sep 2021 21:13 - 20 Sep 2021 21:15 #1 by Rick
...they would be talking about THIS, a lot.


According to CDC data, this is the number of children 0-18 who died from Covid since THE BEGINNING of the pandemic.

Children 0-4 = 159
Children 5-18 = 359

Of all the things that kill children, I'm pretty sure Covid is very far down the list. So why are your sources not feeding you this extremely important information? I'm pretty sure that would be extremely relevant and wanted information every good parent would appreciate getting.

But no, your sources will instead focus on all the horrible people who won't bow to the Deliverance Boy , all grown up.

Sorry if I seem overly angry about this, but come on, can't you see it?


data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-D...s-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3

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21 Sep 2021 08:57 #2 by FredHayek
With children, we could reach the point where more kids die from the vaccine than Covid-19.

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21 Sep 2021 09:00 #3 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: With children, we could reach the point where more kids die from the vaccine than Covid-19.

Not to mention all the unknown harm these masks are going to do to them short and long term. How many other countries are doing this to their children?

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21 Sep 2021 09:54 #4 by ScienceChic
Trustworthy (ie they all stated the number of pediatric deaths upfront, receipts below):
Nature
American Academy of Pediatrics
Children's Hospital of Colorado
NPR
USA Today
US News & World Report
Forbes

You keep claiming that children are harmed by masks. Could you please provide some credible evidence to that?

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children
Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.
Heidi Ledford, Nature | 15 July 2021

Children and COVID-19: State-Level Data Report
American Academy of Pediatrics
Data Available as of 9/16/21

Children and COVID-19: Debunking the Number One Myth
Children's Hospital

“While children are less likely to become severely ill from the virus that causes COVID-19, kids can get and spread the virus, they can get sick, and some have been hospitalized. Some children have even died, though fortunately deaths have been very rare,” says Children’s Hospital Colorado pediatric infectious disease expert Sean O’Leary, MD, MPH. “We don’t want to add to families’ stress, but we do want parents and children to continue to take COVID-19 seriously enough to maintain precautions — including and especially getting all family members vaccinated as soon as possible.”

Nearly 94,000 Kids Got COVID-19 Last Week. They Were 15% Of All New Cases
Joe Hernandez, NPR | Updated August 10, 2021

But the numbers appear to show that severe illness, hospitalization and death are rare in children infected with the coronavirus.

In states where data was available, less than 2% of all child COVID-19 cases required hospitalization and 0.00% to 0.03% were fatal.

"I'm not seeing any patterns that suggest the virus is more virulent or more serious or more severe in children than it was before this variant appeared," Maldonado added.

Scientists examine the unique immune systems of children as more fall victim to COVID-19
Liz Szabo, Kaiser Health News via USA Today | September 19, 2021

Although there’s no evidence the delta variant causes more severe disease, the virus is so infectious that children are being hospitalized in large numbers – mostly in states with low vaccination rates. Nearly 30% of COVID-19 infections reported for the week that ended Sept. 9 were in children, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

But the latest surge gives new urgency to a question that has mystified scientists throughout the pandemic: What protects most children from becoming seriously ill? And why does that protection sometimes fail?

For much of the pandemic, doctors could only guess why children’s immune systems were so much more successful at rebuffing the coronavirus.

Despite the alarming number of hospitalized children in the recent surge, young people are much less likely to become critically ill. Fewer than 1% of children diagnosed with COVID-19 are hospitalized and about 0.01% die – rates that haven’t changed in recent months, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. Most children shrug off the virus with little more than a sniffle.

Report: More Than 20% of U.S. Weekly COVID-19 Cases Were in Children
Severe illness, hospitalization and death from the coronavirus in children still appears uncommon, according to the report.
By Cecelia Smith-Schoenwalder, US News & World Report | Sept. 3, 2021

Children Now Nearly 1 In 5 New Covid Cases—Though Hospitalization Still ‘Uncommon’
Jemima McEvoy, Forbes Staff | August 16, 2021

Hospitalization and death from Covid-19 remains “uncommon” among children, the pediatrics group highlighted, with between 0.00% and 0.03% of all infections ending in death in the states that reported virus-related deaths by age.


CNN did not call out the number of pediatric deaths, but showed all of the data so it could be extrapolated if the reader simply did some thinking for themselves.

What the data reveals about children and Covid-19 in the US
By Daniel Wolfe and Priya Krishnakumar, CNN | Updated September 1, 2021

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21 Sep 2021 11:09 #5 by FredHayek
Denver Post had a story today that in Colorado one out of one hundred of us is contagious with Covid-19. Better than the peak that was one out of forty. Still probably a good idea to get vaccinated, especially as people head back to offices, schools, and holiday events with family and friends.:rakeleaves:

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21 Sep 2021 12:21 #6 by ramage
The effects on children wearing masks are going to be long term, mostly psychological. This will take an extended period of time to flesh out. Perhaps there is someone conducting a study of those children for example, Florida vs. NY. What will be the measurements that might be used? Suicide, serious psychiatric issues, bipolar disorder, none of this will be manifested in the short period now.


The citations of SC are long and descriptive , but the authors only address the short term effects. It would be interesting to know if anyone is following the teenagers with myocarditis.

"The Myocarditis Treatment Trial reported mortality rates for biopsy-verified myocarditis of 20% and 56% at 1 year and 4.3 years, respectively. 6 These outcomes are similar to the Mayo Clinic's observational data of 5-year survival rates that approximate 50%. 4 Survival with giant cell myocarditis is substantially lower, with <20% of patients ...
www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha.105.584532
The conculsion: kids do not need the Covid shot unless they have some immunocompromised issues.
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21 Sep 2021 14:43 #7 by Rick
Common sense seems to never come into play, we always have to have to lean on some sort of stupid study that couldn't possibly give long term accurate results. If you really think forcing a child to wear a mask (probably not a reliable n65 mask) that will be filthy by end of the day and touched hundreds of times, then you haven't been around a lot of children.

If the numbers of Covid deaths of children is less than the average number of flu deaths, WTF are we doing forcing kids to wear masks when we don't know what the long term effects might be? Now in NYC they are going to mandate that children as young as TWO YEARS OLD wear a f##king mask! If children were dropping in significant numbers I could understand the logic, but we don't even have a good idea of how many kids have had covid and easily got through it.

I'm sick of people ignoring statistics and ignoring unintended consequences of this fear porn being pushed by authoritarian assholes. Of course the elites rarely have to have their kids follow these rules because their kids are usually in private schools or have live in nannies to care for their precious offspring.

I'll ask again, what other countries are forcing children to were masks in schools? It's not like this country has a good record of being right so far, especially those who have followed Fauci's horrible advice.

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21 Sep 2021 15:05 #8 by homeagain
Can "we"collectively,just say NOT ENOUGH DATA. The whole of this pandemic problem is going to play
out in time, TIME has not elapsed to it's fullness. HIV/AIDS would be a comparison in modern times. The
1912 Spanish flu has been surpassed in deaths (of course,THAT was over a century ago when meds were
minimal)....we r susceptible to many MORE pandemics in the future.....take a deep breath and be calmer,
the species is either going to overcome or succumb,kinda natures way.....JMO

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21 Sep 2021 20:30 #9 by Rick
Full agree HA. They will likely start mandating young school children to get jabbed with extremely limited data, especially compared to the usual FDA process.

But back to the topic, why don't liberal sources (90% of media I'm guessing) talk about the low number of child deaths compared to the flu. They also just avoid talking about natural immunity... so we are supposed to believe the left media follows science and delivers the truth? I think not.

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28 Sep 2021 18:42 #10 by koobookie
Did you read SC's post where show showed that several "liberal sources" actually fed you "this really important information?"

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