BEST healthcare,BEST doctors....still bad result.

18 Oct 2021 07:01 #1 by homeagain
www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/1...complications/?sh=72

was he auto immune? VAC. booster? looks like a roll of the dice....can we just say ''WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH DATA ON VACCINES?"

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18 Oct 2021 08:01 #2 by FredHayek
:( I really hate to see the bullying going on from vaccine supporters. Lately they have been targeting pregnant women. If I was carrying a child in me, I would be very resistant to introducing a drug that hasn't been tested on infants. Leave these mothers alone.

Along with that are those who have already got Covid-19. Stop forcing people to get the vaccine if they have already suffered from the virus.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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18 Oct 2021 08:05 #3 by ramage
The MSM put up a headline that Collin Powell died of Covid-19
Former secretary of state and general dead of COVID at 84 — despite being fully vaxxed
nypost.com/2021/10/18/colin-powell-forme...of-state-dead-at-84/

Or was it with Covid-19? Without a necropsy it will not be known.
Recall that Powell was treated for prostate cancer via radical prostatectomy in 2003. At 15 yrs the survival rate is 63%
www.prostate-cancer.com/prostatectomy/su...l-prostatectomy.html

I am not suggesting that Prostate Ca was the cause, rather I take issue with the MSM labelling every death a Covid death if the patient had the virus. Recall the motorcyclist in Florida.

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18 Oct 2021 09:12 #4 by Rick
Ramage, from what I'm hearing this morning from the leftist media is that it Covid was a contributor and not the actual cause of death. They don't want the narrative to change and cause more doubt about the shots (we need to stop calling them vaccines and comparing them to Measles and other actual vaccines that do prevent infection). I think we will all have to get Covid at some point just like we all had to get the flu and there will always be deaths, with or without the shots.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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18 Oct 2021 10:13 #5 by koobookie
Powell had blood cancer that made him very immuno-compromised. If you are making a point about vaccines and how they "don't work," remember that anti-vaxxers contributed to his death by not doing their part to slow the spread of COVID.

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18 Oct 2021 10:49 #6 by ramage
"Powell had blood cancer"

Please provide a source for your diagnosis.

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18 Oct 2021 10:54 #7 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote: Powell had blood cancer that made him very immuno-compromised. If you are making a point about vaccines and how they "don't work," remember that anti-vaxxers contributed to his death by not doing their part to slow the spread of COVID.

Sorry, that isn't true. Both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated can spread Covid-19. So you can't only blame the unvaccinated. But I do have to agree that blood cancer severely hurt his ability to fight disease. The 84 year old man has been fighting cancer for years and if Covid-19 didn't kill him, the cancer, pneumonia, or something similar would have killed him eventually.

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18 Oct 2021 11:11 #8 by koobookie
My point is that if more people had opted IN and received the vaccination, we might have reached herd immunity by now and Powell might not have been infected.

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18 Oct 2021 11:47 #9 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote: My point is that if more people had opted IN and received the vaccination, we might have reached herd immunity by now and Powell might not have been infected.

I know this theory and believed in it, but when you are looking at the most vaccinated nations like Israel, it seems that the vaccinations are not achieving herd immunity. Both the vaccinated and unvaccinated are still getting Covid-19. In fact, it looks like the Covid-19 vaccines aren't preventing people from getting it. They only lessen the chances of them dying from it.

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18 Oct 2021 14:59 - 18 Oct 2021 15:00 #10 by Rick

koobookie wrote: Powell had blood cancer that made him very immuno-compromised. If you are making a point about vaccines and how they "don't work," remember that anti-vaxxers contributed to his death by not doing their part to slow the spread of COVID.

I didn't say what you're assuming I said, but nice try. I'm talking about the fragile narrative that the media must keep alive. The truth is that vaccinated people can contract covid as well as spreadar covid. The 1.5 million illegals that have been given a free pass to come here were not vaccinated and the media as well as this administration refuse to mention that fact. A narrative is just a story, it's not necessarily a non-fiction story, especially when paired with an authoritarian government. If you disagree with my focused point, please react to that instead of putting words in my mouth.

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