Big Beautiful Bill Killed By Massie & Rand?

02 Jul 2025 20:05 #1 by FredHayek
Predictions? Will fiscal conservatives get enough no votes together to stop it?

I think enough bribes of pork will be created to make it barely pass.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Jul 2025 20:26 #2 by Rick
This is the first step in many, Fred. You still haven’t stated what the correct course of action would have been. And please don’t do what these Democrats always do and say something like, “president _______ would have forced more cuts”.

Thats like when climate nutters say “we have to do something!”

Give me DETAILS on how someone, anyone, could have gotten a better bill.

Now, let’s look at the good parts of the bill. You may not like much, or maybe you do. The question I have for you is, what does our economy look like a year from today? What happens if Trump gets a whole bunch of good trade deals, lowers regulations that slow progress, reduces energy prices…. What’s the GDP a year from now, two years from now…

This is the first step and I think there will be more bills to seriously address the debt. Trump doesn’t like to lose and he did promise to balance the budget. The only way this process can begin is if this bill passes… there is no second option that doesn’t hurt the progress.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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03 Jul 2025 00:14 #3 by FredHayek
The GOP does need to do a better job pushing the good parts like No Taxes On Tips. Trump worked hard to get that Blue Collar vote and they are letting the Democrats call it a bill that raises taxes on the working class and gives a tax break to billionaires.

What will the bill do? Who knows at this point? They are still tinkering with it. I know it lost my support when they kept silencers on the NFA list
I gave the gun groups a lot of money last year and so far received very little in return.

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03 Jul 2025 06:21 #4 by Rick

FredHayek wrote: they are letting the Democrats call it a bill that raises taxes on the working class and gives a tax break to billionaires.
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Yeah, so what? Democrats lie, that's what they do. How did that strategy work out for them over Biden's term? Not very well. Democrats lost credibility with everyone but the 30% who suffer from TDS. No matter what you think of the bill, it wasn't going to get any better (unless you can tell me how I'm wrong). So Republicans either vote for Trump's agenda and campaign promises or they vote for the Democrat agenda, which is to do everything the opposite of what Trump wants.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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03 Jul 2025 11:07 #5 by FredHayek
Will President Trump promise enough pork products to Massie's allies to get the bill done this weekend?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Jul 2025 12:42 #6 by FredHayek
The Big Beautiful Bill has passed! Trump go it done for the 249th Independence Day!

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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