TRUTH TO POWER....TO PS AND OTHER MALES

12 Aug 2025 14:35 #1 by homeagain
www.propublica.org/article/texas-senate-...n-medical-exceptions


Written in response to a ProPublica investigation last year, Senate Bill 31, called The Life of the Mother Act, represents a remarkable turn among the Republican lawmakers who were the original supporters of the ban. For the first time in four years, they acknowledged that women were being denied care because of confusion about the law and took action to clarify its terms.

AND NOW U KNOW WHY I STATED U HAVE NO IDEA....AND STFU

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12 Aug 2025 21:55 #2 by FredHayek
Anytime a law is passed this stuff happens. Have to see what the courts say and have to see how states decide to enforce it.

But we do know the way you think. You would rather the fetus die if the mother/parents don't have one million dollars to support the child.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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12 Aug 2025 21:58 #3 by FredHayek
Remember when Colorado got legal recreational pot. There was a lot of confusion about what this would actually mean and took months to hash out.

BTW, Marijuana is still illegal at the federal level but the Federal government chooses not to enforce the law.

You can see why there was confusion after new abortion restrictions were passed.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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13 Aug 2025 06:35 #4 by homeagain
ZING....RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD....THIS ABOUT DEATH/SEVERE INJURY BECAUSE OF THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION RELIGIOUS RIGHT INTERFERENCE WITH A DOCTOR/PATIENT RELATIONSHIP......IF MEN HAD TO ENDURE THIS FIASCO....IT WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN FOUR YEARS TO RECTIFY THE RIGID AND WRONGHEADED LAW......IT WAS NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS BUT THE DOCTOR/WOMEN'S DECISION....GOT IT???

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13 Aug 2025 12:47 #5 by FredHayek

homeagain wrote: ZING....RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD....THIS ABOUT DEATH/SEVERE INJURY BECAUSE OF THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION RELIGIOUS RIGHT INTERFERENCE WITH A DOCTOR/PATIENT RELATIONSHIP......IF MEN HAD TO ENDURE THIS FIASCO....IT WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN FOUR YEARS TO RECTIFY THE RIGID AND WRONGHEADED LAW......IT WAS NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS BUT THE DOCTOR/WOMEN'S DECISION....GOT IT???


So should women also have the right to drown their infants?

Or do you just support post birth abortions in the same week?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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13 Aug 2025 13:00 #6 by homeagain
NOT GO TO DIGNIFY THIS WITH AN ANSWER.....IS THAT ALL U GOT???

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13 Aug 2025 15:32 #7 by FredHayek
I didn't know it was a question. I don't know what you typed out there.

If women are equal like you claim they are, why do they let men continue to rule them?

And why is the opportunity to kill the life growing inside you the definition of feminism. You want the legal right to kill the innocent unborn.

Colorado guarantees you that right in their constitution. Be happy! You now have a license to kill, just like James Bond.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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13 Aug 2025 22:25 #8 by PrintSmith

homeagain wrote: www.propublica.org/article/texas-senate-...n-medical-exceptions


Written in response to a ProPublica investigation last year, Senate Bill 31, called The Life of the Mother Act, represents a remarkable turn among the Republican lawmakers who were the original supporters of the ban. For the first time in four years, they acknowledged that women were being denied care because of confusion about the law and took action to clarify its terms.

AND NOW U KNOW WHY I STATED U HAVE NO IDEA....AND STFU

Part of the Legislature’s
choice is to permit a significant exception to the general prohibition
against abortion. And it has delegated to the medical—rather than the
legal—profession the decision about when a woman’s medical
circumstances warrant this exception. The law allows an abortion
when:
2
in the exercise of reasonable medical judgment, the
pregnant female . . . has a life-threatening physical
condition aggravated by, caused by, or arising from a
pregnancy that places the female at risk of death or poses
a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily
function unless the abortion is performed or induced.
TEX. H EALTH & SAFETY C ODE § 170A.002(b)(2).
Only a doctor can exercise “reasonable medical judgment”1 to
decide whether a pregnant woman “has a life-threatening physical
condition,” making an abortion necessary to save her life or to save her
from “a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily
function.” If a doctor, using her “reasonable medical judgment,” decides
that a pregnant woman has such a condition, then the exception applies,
and Texas law does not prohibit the abortion.

www.txcourts.gov/media/1457645/230994pc.pdf

This opinion was delivered 11 December, 2023. The legislature left the decision to the doctors, exercising their "reasonable medical judgement" to decide whether their patient's condition required intervention to terminate the pregnancy. If the doctor, in their "reasonable medical opinion" decided a medically induced abortion was necessary then the exemption applied. Period, punct, end of discussion. That is about as far away from ambiguity as it gets - the doctor decides based on standards of care, the "reasonable opinion" that governs the medical care of patients under a doctor's care. So you STFU HA, the women are suffering because the no-limits crowd is spreading disinformation for political profit. No less than the highest court in the State of Texas has said if the doctor says it's necessary, then it's necessary and the exemption provided for in the law applies.

As long as the doctor is making a medical, and not a philosophical, decision, they have no exposure to penalty. That's what the Texas law says. Not my opinion, the Supreme Court of Texas' unanimous opinion.

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14 Aug 2025 10:07 #9 by homeagain
AND U R IN THE MEDICAL ARENA HOW?.......I BELIEVE THE THREAT OF LOSING A LICENSE (MEDICAL) IS STRONG INDICATOR OF HOW DECISIONS R MADE IN THE MEDICAL ARENA...I BELIEVE WORDS HAVE CONSEQUENCES....AND THE ACTIONS R BASED ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW.....THE ARTICLE,WHICH BY THE WAY, IS NOT CORP OWNED PAPER DID EXTENSIVE REPORTING/RESEARCH....IF THERE WAS NO PROBLEM, WHY THEN DECIDE TO AMEND THE LAW...BECAUSE IT WAS POORLY THOUGHT OUT AND WAS MORALLY WRONG.

I AM ON AN ETHICS COMMITTEE AT OUR CITY'S HOSPITAL....DO NOT EVEN BEGIN TO TELL ME THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM AND THE LAW WAS/IS CORRECTLY IMPLEMENTED.

I AM PRESENT TO HEAR FEMALE DOCTORS,FEMALE P.A. AND FEMALE N.P. STORIES OF THEIR PATIENTS CONDITIONS BEING DISMISSED BY MALE CONSTITUENTS AND THE FRUSTRATION THEY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR PATIENT...THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED HIERARCHY AND IT IS WELL KNOWN.


YOUR RELIANCE ON THE WRITTEN WORD OF THE LAW (THAT U QUOTE) DOES NOT SQUARE WITH THE REALITY ON THE GROUND....SO DO NOT PREACH TO ME THAT I AM BUYING INTO
"BOGUS" PUBLICATIONS AND FAKE NEWS.....

HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ''THE LAW' NOT BEING THE FINAL WORD......M.A.I.D. IS A LAW IN COLORADO, IF I WISH TO EXERCISE IT, BECAUSE U HAVE 6 MO OR LESS TO LIVE....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, WHILE U R IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN AND WOULD LIKE THE LAW TO BE ENFORCED,
HERE ON THE WESTERN SLOPE (MONTROSE AND SURROUNDING AREAS) THE DOCTORS WILL NOT ABIDE BY THE LAW....U R REFERRED OUT TO THE FRONT RANGE....TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF MILES IN A "ACTIVELY DYING CONDITION" TO UTILIZE THE LAW THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. (BY LAW)......SO-O-O, YES I SAY AGAIN STFU

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14 Aug 2025 12:12 #10 by FredHayek
Too many people think you can pass laws to fix things.

In the military they tell you as a young lieutenant to never give an order that you think won't be obeyed.

For a law to be successful, it must be obeyed, and this is often not the case. Just look at all the expired license plates in Colorado right now.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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