Xcel and The Wind . . . Musings of a Curious Mind

19 Dec 2025 12:41 #11 by PrintSmith
The point is that it is political interference in the marketplace, demanding X% of electricity supply be generated by "renewable" methods, and not public safety (risk of wildfire) that necessitates the need to shut off the electricity to homes during high wind events since during a high wind event the amount of electricity able to be generated is 70% of average generation.

Demand doesn't go down, in fact the presence of the wind likely increases the demand, but the ability to generate to meet the demand drastically falls off because 66% of the "renewable" generation, that accounts for 43% of the electricity generated on an average day in Colorado, comes from wind turbines that must be idled during a high wind event and the remaining 34% coming from solar experiences a sharp drop off due to cloud cover that accompanies the wind event.

What has been the most often recited reservation about "renewable" sources of energy HA? They are unreliable and insufficient to guaranty sufficient production to meet demand on a day to day basis without also having their total capacity in reserve from non-renewable sources, right? How much of Colorado would have to be shut down if the politburo in the State house had their way and we were 100% "renewable" in our energy generation on days like Wednesday and today?

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19 Dec 2025 13:46 #12 by homeagain

PrintSmith wrote: The point is that it is political interference in the marketplace, demanding X% of electricity supply be generated by "renewable" methods, and not public safety (risk of wildfire) that necessitates the need to shut off the electricity to homes during high wind events since during a high wind event the amount of electricity able to be generated is 70% of average generation.

Demand doesn't go down, in fact the presence of the wind likely increases the demand, but the ability to generate to meet the demand drastically falls off because 66% of the "renewable" generation, that accounts for 43% of the electricity generated on an average day in Colorado, comes from wind turbines that must be idled during a high wind event and the remaining 34% coming from solar experiences a sharp drop off due to cloud cover that accompanies the wind event.

What has been the most often recited reservation about "renewable" sources of energy HA? They are unreliable and insufficient to guaranty sufficient production to meet demand on a day to day basis without also having their total capacity in reserve from non-renewable sources, right? How much of Colorado would have to be shut down if the politburo in the State house had their way and we were 100% "renewable" in our energy generation on days like Wednesday and today?

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THERE R A VARIETY OF METHODS TO GENERATE ENERGY....THE PROBLEM ??? LOBBYISTS FOR THE OIL AND GAS SECTOR....WIND GENERATION IS ONLY A SINGULAR SOLUTION.....BUT THIS GOV IS BESTIES WITH OIL AND GAS....SO OTHER OPTIONS R BEING EXPLORED ,BUT R BEING DOWNPLAYED AND STARVED BY GREED....GEO THERMAL IS A VERY DOABLE SECTOR
BUT U DON'T SEE MUCH PRESS ON OTHER OPTIONS.,AGAIN BECAUSE OF GREED AND LACK OF FORWARD THINKING.........DRILL BABY DRILL IS NOT THE ANSWER,BUT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SHOVED DOWN R THROATS BECAUSE THIS ADM. IS DETERMINED TO MAKE HIS BESTIES
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19 Dec 2025 19:24 #13 by FredHayek
Oil is down to $58 dollars a barrel Time to refill the strategic reserve. Lowest prices since 2021. Even Europe has ended their horrible plan to ban the internal combustion engine by 2035.

It was an overreaction to climate alarmists who refuse to criticize India and China for building new coal fired power plants. They just want the taxpayers of the West to suffer and pay for everything.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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20 Dec 2025 13:03 #14 by Rick
Trump will fill the reserves only to have the next leftist moron empty it before an election to get votes.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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20 Dec 2025 14:01 #15 by homeagain

Rick wrote: Trump will fill the reserves only to have the next leftist moron empty it before an election to get votes.


WELL, HE MAY TRY TO REFILL, BUT THERE R SEVERAL FACTORS THAT R WORKING AGAINST THAT....THE RESERVE IS NO WHERE NEAR IT'S NORMAL LEVEL.....SO DON'T ASSUME HE IS THE
SAVIOR OF SECURING THE RESERVE.

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20 Dec 2025 16:07 #16 by homeagain

PrintSmith wrote: For the past couple of days, Xcel has been blanketing the airwaves with warnings that they may have to implement their PSPS (Public Safety Power Shutoff) protocols as a result of the high winds that are forecasted for this area today.

So, my mind working as it does, I got to musing about the "Renewable Energy" mandates imposed by our State government and its effects. Obviously in high winds, you have to shut down the windmills because they might tear themselves apart if operated in these conditions. With the high degree of cloud cover that accompanies such events, the solar cells are going to be producing significantly less power too. We have no storage to draw upon as that technology is far, far behind the pace of implementation of the generation technology, and we no longer have the excess capacity from fossil fuel derived plants because those are being abandoned to "save the planet" from "climate change".

My question is this . . . given all of the above, is it at all possible that rather than shutting down the power for public safety the power is being cut because there simply isn't going to be enough electricity to power our communities during such times?

I mean, I get it, the Marshall Fire was the result of a downed power line sparking the wildfire during a high wind event, and even though we're paying an ever higher price for electricity for infrastructure improvement, thus far it doesn't seem that a lot of the revenue generated is going to mitigation of risk during high wind events through replacement of old towers and poles, strengthening the wire connections, or tree removal so that a falling tree doesn't hit a live wire.

Is the PSPS policy nothing more, and nothing less, than a brownout protocol implemented because our current means of generation can't keep with demand during a high wind event?

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Note: Despite some reports to the contrary, CORE has not initiated any Public Safety Power Shutoff (PSPS) events, nor do we have any planned. Some CORE members remain affected by a PSPS initiated Friday by Xcel Energy, whose transmission line serves some CORE members in and around Conifer and Evergreen. More information about Xcel’s PSPS can be found on our PSPS Events page.


U SPECULATED....CORE RESPONDED

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21 Dec 2025 10:05 #17 by FredHayek
These shutdowns are dangerous! Especially for those on oxygen and the ones who only have electric heat. Hopefully the utilities expand their program to bury more lines and trim more trees.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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21 Dec 2025 11:06 #18 by Rick
I feel pretty lucky we never had a power shutdown this whole time in Red Feather. Wind gusts were up to 118 in a local subdivision… burn scar area.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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21 Dec 2025 11:37 #19 by FredHayek

Rick wrote: I feel pretty lucky we never had a power shutdown this whole time in Red Feather. Wind gusts were up to 118 in a local subdivision… burn scar area.


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You have been blessed!

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21 Dec 2025 11:42 #20 by homeagain
I REALIZE A GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH R SOMEWHAT EXPENSIVE ITEMS....BUT, IF U LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME...IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA...SAVE A LITTLE EACH MONTH AND DON'T BUY CIGS/OR BEER/OR WINE AND INVEST IN A MODEST GENERAC THAT WILL RUN THE ESSENTIALS...WATER PUMP, COFFEE POT A LIGHT OR TWO,FRIG....WE ALWAYS HAD A GENERATOR...26 BELOW WITHOUT ELECT. IS NOT FUN. KICK ON THE SWITCH AND AT LEAST U R SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE...OF COURSE A WOOD BURNING STOVE AND A COUPLE OF CORDS OF WOOD HELP OUT.....ALASKAN ADAGE....BE PREPARED.

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